Ha ha. Well that just goes to show how slippery the language is! Kath ________________________________ From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Trussler Sent: Wednesday, 4 November 2009 4:44 PM To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: atw: Re: 'that' vs 'who' Kath, The language really is changing quickly. Yesterday, I would have written "Don't get your knickers in a knot". Is it now - don't get my nickers into a knot - ? Do I need to update and get trendy? Bob T 2009/11/4 Kathy Bowman <Kathy.Bowman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Hi Howard, Yes apparently it was common in the times of Shakespeare to use 'that' when referring to people. By and large I am a curious observer of the changing English language and don't get my nickers into a knot about it. I have even tried to get new words (engageable, engageability) listed in the Maquarie Dictionary. However I resist the use of corporate and HR language that is designed to dehumanise people (or should I say 'resources'!). cheers Kath