so, if i wanted to do that to, say, my team... could i write an application level macro that would check for and remove those buttons and menu items every time they start word? (then i could hide it in the normal.dot that i would distribute, and they would be forced to use styles. bwaaaahahahahahaha...) =20 -----Original Message----- From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Hudson Sent: Wednesday, 22 December 2004 9:56 PM To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: atw: Re: Prev. posted cleanup of dreaded char char Lists are always set by template. If not, Word guesses. If you control lists by styles, then controlling styles also helps control lists. My articles highly recommend removing formatting and manual list options from the GUI altogether. Mind you, it is all good heresy! Steve Hudson Word Heretic, Sydney, Australia=20 Tricky stuff with Word or words for you. www.wordheretic.com ABN: 86 453 419 554 =20 "Qualified Good Tech Writer Dude" Free Association of Words Without prejudice =20 -----Original Message----- From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kay Rennie Sent: Wednesday, 22 December 2004 4:05 PM To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: atw: Re: Prev. posted cleanup of dreaded char char Hi All This is interesting: <More likely some users have the Track formatting options on and are spontaneously causing it. Word 2003 is a must have as you can lock down styles to those from the template!> I saw a brief reference to locking styles when flicking through a recent Word manual. What does this new function actually do? Does it also apply to outline numbered styles? Joy oh joy if it can stop rogue users muddling numbered paragraph styles. Kay -----Original Message----- From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Steve Hudson Sent: Wednesday, 22 December 2004 2:38 PM To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: atw: Re: Prev. posted cleanup of dreaded char char More likely some users have the Track formatting options on and are spontaneously causing it. Word 2003 is a must have as you can lock down styles to those from the template! Unstable because of the char char fix? Not specifically, as part of any indepth reformat once I have the applied styles right in the target document I maggie straight away. I am hoping the automaggie article will pass peer review soon. -----Original Message----- From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Garry Stevens Sent: Wednesday, 22 December 2004 1:44 PM To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: atw: Re: Prev. posted cleanup of dreaded char char Hi All: Ah, I found the code and Mr Hudson's reworking, which only needs a minor co=3D rrection. A multitude of docs of one specific type here are char-char'd. We only have=3D Word 97 here, so I assume someone a few months ago took one of the earlies=3D t ones home to work on in a later version of Word, and it has been used as =3D a master or template since, spreading its char-charness throughout the worl=3D d. Can anyone tell me if these documents are now unstable? If so I'll email my=3D colleagues and suggest they clean up their work with the code. 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