atw: Re: FW: Publishers Face Prison For Editing Articles from Iran, Iraq, Sudan,Libya or Cuba

  • From: "Robert Kloiber" <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 11:42:06 +1100

I'm rather sceptical as to how real this "terrorist threat" really is.
Reports
are easily faked and spread about in the media. How objective a source
is debca.com?

What this "threat" achieves is to have the people and governments around
the globe running scared. It's not obvious now, but in time we'll know
who really benefitted from this situation, and thus who organised it.

Robert

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On 27/02/2004 at 3:44 PM George Mena wrote:

> I don't think we'll see *that* up here -- we're still after bin Laden, =
> along with Pakistan, which has been rather helpful -- but I am more than
=
> willing to say that includng copy editing as a service to countries =
> decidedly hostile to the USA is a bit much.
> 
> And there's always the reality that a Castro and a Khameini won't live =
> forever. In the meantime, though, there's at least one report from =
> http://www.debka.com that says al-Qaeda is building a European-based =
> army of terrorists.
> 
> Here's the first few lead graphs from and link to that story, which was =
> posted on 25 February 2004: http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=3D794
> 
> First graph:
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> Warnings of al Qaeda's continuing threat came Tuesday, February 24, from
=
> Washington and London as well as one of its top leaders. Addressing the =
> Senate intelligence committee, CIA director George Tenet spoke of the =
> spread of al Qaeda's radical agenda to local groups who now threaten the
=
> United States and are capable of 9/11 scale attacks.=20
> 
> Fifth graph:
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> Even more disquietingly, al Qaeda is discovered to be recruiting =
> manpower in Europe at a brisk pace in a push into the continent =
> personally advocated by Osama bin Laden. The Saudi-born terrorist has =
> thus gained the upper hand in a debate within his organization's top =
> leadership over its next focal arena. Bin Laden urged fostering the war =
> on the "far enemy" (Europe) as against concentrating the movement's fury
=
> on the "near enemy" (Saudi Arabia, Iraq, South Asia).
> 
> Seventh, eighth and ninth graphs:
>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> According to French counter-intelligence, al Qaeda has recruited in =
> France alone between 35,000 and 45,000 men and is organizing them into =
> military-style units. They meet regularly for training in the use of =
> weapons and explosives, combat tactics and indoctrination and are =
> controlled from local and district command centers under the =
> organization's national French command.=20
> 
> In Germany, Al Qaeda has recruited 25,000 to 30,000 men. The British =
> domestic intelligence agency MI5 estimates 10,000 faithful have joined =
> up in Britain, providing Blunkett with more than ample cause for =
> concern.=20
> 
> Al Qaeda is a lot less active in Italy where counter-terrorist agencies =
> hunt its cells to earth relentlessly. Moreover, al Qaeda does not need =
> an important foothold in Italy because it already maintains a thriving =
> presence next door in the Balkan countries of Albania, Kosovo and =
> Macedonia, from which weapons, money and false documents are easily =
> secreted to its European bases.=20
> =20
> 
> Eleventh graph:
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> The new campaign is styled "the white recruitment drive" or "coffee shop
=
> conscription". Operational cells and recruiting agents patronize =
> ordinary cafes on the high streets of Europe's major cities where they =
> blend into the crowds. The new conscripts defy identification by =
> European intelligence services because their Islamic lives are lived =
> completely underground. There is therefore no way of finding their =
> addresses telephone numbers. Unit-level meetings or training sessions, =
> attended by 30 or 40 men, may take place under cover of social activity =
> such as a holiday camp in a remote part of Europe. Tracking them down is
=
> getting harder as bin Laden's new Euro army expands at the rate of tens =
> of thousands and when "white" recruits may already form some 25 percent =
> of the total.
> 
> Is this true? I have no corroborating evidence -- yet.
> 
> But the fact that *someone* came up with numbers that put this initial =
> terrorist army strength at a range from 70,000 to 85,000 -- as a minimum
=
> baseline is scary as hell to me.
> 
> Later,=20
> 
> George
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonn Mero [mailto:jmero@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 7:30 AM
> To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: atw: Re: FW: Publishers Face Prison For Editing Articles from
> Iran, Iraq, Sudan,Libya or Cuba
> 
> 
> Ah, just give the texas moron another 4 years, and you'll get a taste of
> a terrorist regime in full bloom!=20
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