I seem to remember the assessment arrangements we left open, because it simply had to be. The diversity of entry, the diversity of work, the inability of some to obtain peer review of portfolios (defence work for example) means that we need a variety of assessment systems to cater for the communication industry we represent. We can't hope to use just one assessment for everyone. Won't work. -----Original Message----- From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, 7 February 2007 14:50 To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: atw: Re: Another credentialism idea <snip>What also scares me is that those doing the certifying may end up being the same ones (or their ilk) that believe technical writing should come under a 'Life and Social Sciences' faculty. :) Cheers, Bruce</snip> Obviously the details of registration/accreditation/certification (pfft... semantics) would need to be resolved. My main point was that a broad group of experienced technical communicators (e.g. members of the ASTC/STC bodies) should design a curriculum/assessment that assures an employer that the accredited person understands/practices the fundamentals common to all technical communicators. And have a funky acronym. Rod Stuart's recent post hit the nail on the head with the Project Managers. That's pretty much what I had in mind. To be honest Bruce, if it's done properly within an established structure (such as the ASTC), I don't see how a small group of people with special (or skewed) interests could hijack the process - we'd be the ones putting it together and putting it out to the vote etc. It's never going to be a perfect democracy, but if people want a say - join the ASTC for example. Brian - I didn't even think about the whole accreditation (as in VETAB) thing, but I think this is definitely worth exploring. What's stopping the ASTC (or whatever body) becoming a registered training organisation (RTO) with a Certificate II in Technical Communication (for example)? A bit of work to set up, but AFAIK there's nothing for current/aspiring tech writers between short courses and post-grad certificates (or BA degrees with tech writing components). It would fill a vocational skills gap and raise awareness of the profession or sponsor association. Early days, early days. At least the government would give us money. Warren - I'm long overdue to renew my ASTC membership and get back into the loop. But I remember reading about the proposal in Keyword or the ASTC Newsletter and was really impressed by the scheme. My only thought was that it lacked an assessment component - which is where I'm coming from. Cheers, Craig ************************************************** To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. To search the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriter To contact the list administrator, send a message to austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ************************************************** ************************************************** To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. To search the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriter To contact the list administrator, send a message to austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx **************************************************