[audacity4blind] Re: losing speech

  • From: "Gary Metzler" <gmtravel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 05:15:48 -0400

Hi Andrew,

 

Thank you for all the help you are giving me.  I don’t know if I am doing 
something wrong but, when I use the ctrl shift f6 keys I can’t find the table 
tab.  Thanks for all your help.

 

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On Behalf Of Andrew Downie
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 3:36 AM
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Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: losing speech

 

Hi Gary

Do you definitely have the turntable selected as recording device?  If so, 
continue to shift tab along the toolbars and you should get to sliders for 
playback and record volume.  Make sure that both are at least reasonably high.

If you have Audacity set to play through the internal soundcard, the default 
setting should let you monitor while recording.

To move between toolbars at the top of the screen, the tracks panel and the 
toolbars at the bottom, press control-f6.  Pressing shift-control-f6 takes you 
in the opposite direction.

You are not a pest, you are learning.

 

 

Andrew

 

 

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Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: losing speech

 

Hi Andrew,

 

Thanks for all your help.  I seem to be having a problem.  I have the usb codec 
selected but when I go to track 1 and start the turntable and hit the r key and 
wait when I hit the space bar nothing plays.  What are some of the settings 
that I need to check?  Also is there a way to monitor the recording while 
recording?  I’m sorry I am such a pest.  Thanks for all your help.

 

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Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: losing speech

 

Gary, forgot to mention.  When you unplug the turntable it would certainly be 
worth checking that Audacity’s settings are where you want them.  It will 
probably drop to the primary sound driver which, with a single sound card is 
probably ok but I prefer to set to a specific card.

 

 

Andrew

 

 

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Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: losing speech

 

Hi Ted,

 

What I do in nvda is hit insert ctrl r and this brings back speech.

 

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Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: losing speech

 

Right, Gary. When NVDA gets rerouted by a USB device it is convenient to load 
JAWS, which will still have the correct setting, and use it to fix NVDA. Then 
unload JAWS.

 

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Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: losing speech

 

Hi Ted,

 

I also have jaws on my system.  But, nvda is my primary screen reader. 

 

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Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: losing speech

 

Jaws works in much the same way. It is a terrible annoyance when I am adding an 
audio USB device and I lose speech to. This is why I have both jars and NVDA on 
my computer. When Jaws loses its connection to the soundcard, I will then lunch 
NVDA and make Jaws reroute back to its original setting. You can probably do 
the same with a demo version of jaws and NVDA if you have not purchased a Jaws 
license.

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On Apr 22, 2020, at 11:30 PM, Andrew Downie <access_tech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
<mailto:access_tech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:

Hi Gary
Yes, when you connect your turntable Windows treats it as another sound card.  
The same happens with USB headphones, mixers and mics.  You lose speech when 
you select it from NVDA because your turntable has no speaker.
What you need to do is to have NVDA using your existing soundcard and Audacity 
recording from the turntable.  Having connected the turntable and convinced 
NVDA to output through the normal soundcard, you need to change Audacity's 
input.
Open Audacity.  There are two ways of making the necessary change, either 
through Preferences or from a toolbar.  Through Preferences:
1. Press control-p to open Preferences.
2. Press d until you get to Devices.
3. Start tabbing through the options.  Leave playback on your usual soundcard.  
When you get to Recording press up or down arrows until you find the USB codec.
4. Press Enter to get back to the normal Audacity screen.
The other option is to press control-shift-f6 to get to the toolbars at the top 
of the screen.  Shift-tab until you reach playback and recording combo boxes.  
In the recording combo box, use up/down arrows to select the USB codec. Press 
Enter and press control-f6 to get back to the tracks panel.


Andrew


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Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: losing speech

Hi Robert,

I changed my device to my internal sound card.  I noticed that when I am in 
nvda settings under output I now have an usb codec.  When I go to it I lose 
speech again.  Also when I go into audacity and try to record from my turntable 
I get the sounds from the mike.  Also are there any settings I need to change 
in audacity?  Thanks for any help.bert Hänggi
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 7:02 PM
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Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: losing speech

On 22/04/2020, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gmtravel@xxxxxxxxxxx

wrote:

Hi David,

 

 

 

I have an Audio Technica turntable.  How would I change where the 

speech is routed in nvda?  Thanks for any help.


On my system, it's:
NVDA+Control+S, once tab and there's the list to choose from.
You might need to do that for all profiles, if you have more than one.
(NVDA+Control+P to see them)
Robert

 

 

 

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Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: losing speech

 

 

 

Yep, it's normal. Troublesome sometimes, but normal.

 

 

 

You'll probably need to send your screen reader output to a different 

device unless there is a physical headphone jack on your device. The 

speech might be routed through the device.

 

 

 

What USB turntable do you have?

 

 

 

Best,

 

David

 

 

 

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Subject: [audacity4blind] losing speech

 

 

 

Hi All,

 

 

 

I m using the latest win10 nvda and audacity.  When I plug in my usb 

turntable I lose speech.  Is this normal?  Thanks for any help.

 

 

 

Regards, Gary KN4OX

 

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