Hi Steve
I’ve also had the experience where devices show up on my pc with different
names to what they have. For now I don’t think you should read to much into
that. It sounds to me like you tweaking the correct settings. Set that slider
to the desired value (obviously a bit lower than what you have them at present)
and try recording.
Let me know what happens.
Sameer
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From: Steve S
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 1:38 PM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Recording Cassettes
Hi Sameer,
That’s exactly what I’ve been doing. The level there is the same as where I
put the record lever slider in Audacity. If I move it in Audacity it moves
there. If I move it there it moves in Audacity. It doesn’t refer to it as a
Behringer device which confuses me. It refers to it as a microphone USB audio
codec. Perhaps there’s another setting that I’m missing. I would think it
should be listed as a USB line level input of some sort since that’s what it
is. It was specifically designed for recording records and cassettes and
should be solving my meter issues rather than confusing and frustrating me. Any
help or pointers welcome.
Steve
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[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sameer Vasta
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 3:16 PM
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Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Recording Cassettes
Hi Jean and Steve
IIn order to get to those levels you referring to, go to manage audio devices
and then to the recording tab. From the list of devices, choose the behrinjer
and then go to properties. In the properties tab there is a levels tab which
should be adjusted as required.
Hope this helps.
Sameer
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From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 11:22 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Recording Cassettes
I don't know what it should be called, but did you try changing the level
settings in the levels part of the dialog? If you can't change the number
there, the problem may be other than with Audacity since your comments indicate
that the Audacity slider does nothing but set the sound card a different way.
I'm not sure exactly what you are doing. As I recall, you are using a USB
device to record from a standard analog deck. You might be able to avoid the
whole problem if your sound card has a line-in jack. You can connect the deck
directly to the line-in jack and not have to use the USB device at all. Or you
might want to return it and get an external sound card with a line-in jack if
your internal sound card doesn't have one.
Gene
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From: Steve S (Redacted sender "sgsmg49" for DMARC)
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 12:12 PM
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Andrew, Gene and all,
I went to the sound card in control panel and in the properties of the device
the level is the same as I set in Audacity. The computer is referring the
device as:
Microphone microphone USB audio codec
Shouldn’t it be something like line-in USB etc…?
Steve
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[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 10:19 AM
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Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Recording Cassettes
There should be a setting for the actual recording device if you select it, tab
to properties and press the space bar. As I recall it's a button.
Then shift tab once, right arrow through the options and see if one of them is
levels. I've almost never done this, I don't have such a device but I set the
volume on a friend's USB turntable. Since the device is considered to be a
sound card by Windows, I would expect it to have settings such as levels that a
sound card would have.
Gene
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Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 7:27 AM
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Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Recording Cassettes
Hello Andrew,
Yes, the slider is the record level slider in Audacity two tabs past the record
meter. The Behringer has a volume control but I believe its strictly for the
monitoring headphone jack. No, my tape deck has no controls for the line
output volume. I’m getting a fairly decent sounding recordingwith the slider
in the 10 range but no activity in the meter.
One thing I’ve noticed is that in the record device options in preferences my
only USB option is Microphone USB Audio codec. Is that correct that its
recognizing the Behringer as a microphone? Thanks again for the assistance
Steve
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Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 6:21 AM
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Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Recording Cassettes
I think his problem is that he cannot get the level below 0. Steve, some
questions.
The slider of which you speak, is that the one in Audacity? If so, that should
reduce the recording level coming in. Does your Behringer have a volume
control? If so, pull it back a long way. That will reduce the level of the
signal coming into Audacity. Does your tape deck have a way of controlling the
volume coming out through the cable? If so, that is another way of bringing
back the level.
Andrew
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Sent: Sunday, 30 July 2017 8:05 AM
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Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Recording Cassettes
Hi Steve
Oh my gosh, that question is way too complex for me, but I am sure someone else
on this list will be able to answer the question.
If I could venture a guess though, I would think that a reasonable level for
the gain slider for your application would be dependant on the volume of the
tape that you trying to record from. And I am also just guessing now, but try
between minus 18 and minus 24 DB and let me know what the results were.
Regards
Samer
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From: Steve S
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 3:26 PM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Recording Cassettes
Hello Sameer,
Thank you so much. I’m up and running now. My test recordings sound much
better with this device. I’m still having trouble with the meters. No matter
what I do the recording meter says 0DB clipped. I’m missing something. I have
the recording slider down to 10. With a device of this nature what would be a
reasonable range for the slider. Thanks again.
Steve
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[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sameer Vasta
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 2:37 PM
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Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Recording Cassettes
Hi Steve
Fortunately your issue appears to be rather simple to fix.
*. Go to the utilities menu in Jaws then select sound cards.
*. From the Sound cards menu select the soundcard that you use normally (note
please don’t choose the windows default sound card). From the 3 options that
are displayed on your system, it would appear that the middle 1 (speakers /
headphones high definition codec)is the 1 you need.
to choose.
That’s all. Your system should be up and running.
Hope this helps.
Please let me know what happens.
Regards
Sameer
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From: Steve S
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 10:41 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Recording Cassettes
HiGene,
There must be another setting we’re missing here. In the Sound Card sub menu
of Jaws Utilities I have three options:
1. Windows default sound card- this one is checked
2. Speaker/Headphone ( dt High Definition audio codec )
3. Communication Headphones ( DT High Definition Audio codec
When I plug in the device I get a fourth option:
4. Speakers ( USB Audio codec )
When the device is plugged in and the speech is gone the Windows Default Sound
Card is still checked.
In JAWS 18 Help there is no Sound Card Topic. This must be a common issue with
these devices with a simple solution but darned if I can find it. Thanks for
your’s and anyone elses help I can get.
Steve
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[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 11:13 AM
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Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Recording Cassettes
Here is a link to the information.
http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/JAWS/jaws10features
Once on the page, use the virtual find command to search for the word sound and
you will be right at the start of the section.
Gene
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Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 9:43 AM
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Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Recording Cassettes
Thanks Gene, I’ll start looking into it. If anyone has this info on the top of
their head I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance.
Steve
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[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 9:54 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Recording Cassettes
All such devices and equipment that connects for recording sound is seen as a
sound card by Windows. It becomes the default sound card. You need to set
JAWS to only use the Internal soundcard, or whatever sound card you use, no
matter what Windows classifies as the default sound card. As long as the
device is connected, Windows uses it as though it were a sound card and makes
it the default sound card. Someone will very likely tell you how to tell JAWS
to only use one sound card. If they don't, I'll look up the information. But
there are likely people who already have it handy.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve S (Redacted sender "sgsmg49" for DMARC)
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 8:24 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Recording Cassettes
Hello,
I recently purchased the Behringer u-phono 202 USB audio interface for
recording records and tapes to my Windows 7 laptop. When I plug in the device
my screen reader which is Jaws 18 is silenced leaving me helpless. Any
suggestions would be appreciated.
Steve
