[AR] Re: SDR Radio's was "infrastructure" (was Re: Amateur solid rockets for ...)

  • From: Henry Spencer <hspencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Arocket List <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2017 14:40:15 -0500 (EST)

On Sat, 16 Dec 2017, Marcus D. Leech wrote:

Moving up in frequency means the path-loss gets worse...

This is something that often confuses people; it's not that higher frequencies actually incur more losses en route. The real issue is that the way path loss is defined, it includes a separate question: what's the aperture (effective collecting-area diameter) of an omni receive antenna? The answer is that a radio photon has to pass within a fraction of a wavelength of the antenna to interact with it... so an omni antenna's aperture shrinks as the frequency rises.

Overall, omni-to-omni communications work better at lower frequencies. Omni-to-dish (or vice versa; substitute other high-gain antennas for the dish if desired) is pretty much frequency-agnostic. Dish-to-dish works better as the frequency rises. (For all three, this assumes other things are equal... which they often aren't.)

In VHF, it's perfectly reasonable to do omni-to-omni comms from orbit (or to orbit), if data rates are modest or transmitter power is generous. Which is just as well, because VHF high-gain antennas are big clumsy things. (Our NORSAT-2 has a deployable VHF Yagi, but it's rather above the cubesat class.)

In S-band or higher, well, not so much, unless you've got a *seriously* muscular transmitter.

Henry

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