[AR] Re: Long March 2F panel ejection?

  • From: Henry Spencer <hspencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Arocket List <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:55:46 -0400 (EDT)

On Mon, 17 Oct 2016, Ed Kelleher wrote:

Was watching the Shenzhou 11 launch and saw some white panels falling off the vehicle just a few seconds after liftoff...
...non cryo propellants, so don't think it would be pre-launch insulation.

Don't be too sure of that. If you look at photos of old Ariane launches (before Ariane 5), you'll see panels falling off the second stage -- they *are* insulation, meant to keep the second-stage propellants (N2O4/UDMH) from warming up to Kourou daytime ambient temperatures! In effect, the old Ariane second stage used slightly-chilled propellants, to get a bit more mass into the same tanks and/or keep the N2O4 pressure down (not sure which was the more important issue). Could be that some of the Long Marches do the same thing.

Henry

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