[arachne] Re: [SPAM] Re: Ray-i-fying the sources
- From: "Ray Andrews" <randrews@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: arachne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:26:49 -0800
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On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:19:56 +0000, Udo Kuhnt wrote:
Udo,
I would not normally respond to such a nasty rant. It is clear that since you
lack logical responses to my points, you are forced to attack me personally.
Nevertheless you are worth the trouble ...
> only thing you are trying to accomplish is to force your version down
> our throats. You say that I should accept the team's decision to work
Sir, how can I force you to do a single thing? That's stupid. I have only one
weapon and that is persuasion -- I *invite* you to consider my view and will
not hold it against you in the least if you decline the invitation. Glenn and
I work together every day, and he is the ultimate 'old code' guy, he won't
stand to see one line of the old sources deleted, not #define CLEMTEST, not
one failed doodle, not one bit of code that was replaced 10 years ago -- but
we aren't rude to each other, we agree to disagree.
> with your sources instead while at the same time you have proven unable
> to accept the team's decision to use v190;J1 as the code base yourself.
Decisions change, do they not? And did we every truly discuss it? How many
people at AD have even looked at my src? How many have run my distro? Not
you, that's for sure. Your opinion is all hot air, you don't even know what
it is that you are not liking. Ron, Eric, Glenn, Bastiaan ... these guys have
at least tried it, so there opinion is real.
> You say that you share your code with the others, but in fact you have
> kept it to yourself. And that was not Glenn's decision; I have never
> seen you publish a single scrap of your code on the ArachneDevelopment
> list for us to "steal". There is no doubt that you would continue to do
You get them from Glenn after he has imported them back into the old sources
of course. Your emotions are affecting your intelligence.
> You said that Michal left the team because he could not stand the old
> source code. Well, I tell you something: If you succeed in bullying the
> others into switching to your code, then I will also leave. Because that
> would clearly show me that the team no longer exists. There can be no
> team work if a tyrant is in charge, and that is what you have become.
Please explain why, if (and it probably won't happen but if ...) the others
all chose to adopted my code, the team would no longer exist?
Tyrant? On the contrary, my policy is that all people who use my code are
equal as to how it is developed. Your vote on any subject would be equal to
mine. Besides, the source is open, you could take it and do whatever you want
with it, even if I hated it. Right now Glenn is packaging my core into
a distro -- he has total control of that, not very tyranical IMHO.
To be honest, I think if you truly had no interest in my work, you'd just let
the subject die, instead you keep coming back with bad reasoning and nasty
emotions. Why? Let me be bold enough to say why -- it's because one part of
you knows I'm right, but some other part doesn't want to face it -- so you
become rude due to inner conflict.
Now I hope you just drop this subject or try to be polite even if you can't
be reasonable. And I'm sorry if I myself have been a bit rude here. The rest
will soon be sick of our debate, let's quit it.
Regards,
Ray Andrews
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