[aodvv2-discuss] Re: Some proposed resolutions for AODVv2 issues in the issue tracker

  • From: Lotte Steenbrink <lotte.steenbrink@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: aodvv2-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 00:58:52 +0100

Hi Stan, hi all,

Am 31.12.2014 um 20:29 schrieb Stan Ratliff <ratliffstan@xxxxxxxxx>:

> If the penalty is "less improvement", and not failure. then I'll push harder 
> for the text change. Otherwise, we're caught in the procedural issue of a 
> standards-track doc having a downref to an informational RFC, and the other 
> problems that Thomas noted - it is legitimate to state that RFC 6621 
> specifies multiple schema, and to question whether those schema interoperate 
> with regard to AODVv2. Replacing it with text saying "It's up to you, oh 
> mighty implementer." addresses the issue by taking it off the table. 
> 

For what it's worth, these arguments seem very convincing to me. However, the 
information that RFC 6621 describes a suitable way to achieve this may be a 
helpful hint for someone less experienced than you are (Remembering my 
struggles with neighbor monitoring mechanisms, I would've found such hints very 
helpful). Would it be possible and/or useful to downgrade the reference to RFC 
6621 from normative to informative by mentioning it in a half-sentence, for 
example like so:

“Implementations are free to choose their own heuristics, for reducing 
multicast overhead. One example for this is [RFC6621].”

?

Regards,
Lotte

> Regards,
> Stan
>  
> 
> On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Charlie Perkins 
> <charles.perkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Hello Stan,
> 
> I am O.K. with that, maybe, especially regarding duplicate transmissions. 
> However, RFC 6621 specifies ways of implementing reduced relay sets that
> can substantially improve performance.
> 
> If some nodes implement RFC 6621, and others do not, the penalty is
> not failure, but less improvement.  It's always better than brute force,
> though, even if some nodes do not implement.
> 
> Regards,
> Charlie P.
> 
> 
> On 12/31/2014 10:57 AM, Stan Ratliff wrote:
>> *** This email is about Issue #32 (Multicast transmission) ***
>> 
>> 
>> ============================================================
>> 
>> [manet] #32 (aodvv2): Multicast transmission
>> 
>> I updated the issue tracker with some discussion from Abdussalam.
>> 
>> We should ask Adrian if we can close this issue.
>> 
>> ============================================================
>> 
>> I think the current draft statement  "In order to reduce multicast overhead, 
>> retransmitting multicast packets in MANETs SHOULD be done according to 
>> methods specified in [RFC6621]" should be changed. I propose we use the 
>> standard "cop-out" that is in many, many places in DLEP: 
>> "Implementations are free to choose their own hueristics for reducing 
>> multicast overhead."  
>> Provided, of course, that won't cause interoperability issues (e.g two 
>> different implementations, using different multicast retransmission schemes, 
>> trying to connect to               each other). 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Stan
>> 
> 
> 

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