Friends, I didn't think that John Roth would mind if I passed this along. Ray ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: John D. Roth <johndr@xxxxxxxxxx> Date: Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 1:22 PM Subject: Re: Church, State and Garland Robertson To: Ray Gingerich <rjgingerich@xxxxxxxxx>, Austin Mennonite Church < amc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Milwaukee Mennonite <milwaukee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Dear Ray, Thanks very much for passing along the name of Garland Robertson ... and his fascinating story! As you know (or will come to see) from reading * Stories*, the Ana-Menn story moves forward only to the extent that it is continuously being renewed. So it's a delight to learn of ways in which the gifts and life-experiences of "newcomers" like Garland are doing just that. Blessings to you! - jdr At 07:15 PM 3/16/2008, Ray Gingerich wrote: Friends, I am taking a risk that I will offend Garland by sending you this web citation. I think I will ask for forgiveness rather than permission as Garland is in Washington protesting the war right now. The article I am about to send you so much relates to our "Stories" discussion today on the non-violence of the early church, the persecution of the early Christians by the state for their refusal to worship the emperor or fight the emperor's wars. And, that question that Helen posed in her sermon today, "who is this Jesus," that we claim to follow and what does following him really mean right now, today? Probably, some of you were wondering again, as I do, "do I really have the courage to follow?" Is there any among us who does? Do we have contemporary models? (Bonhoeffer was indeed a model, a tragic one--succumbing to the "myth of redemptive violence"--violence that he had rejected until the end of his life). Who are the contemporary ones? Where are they? What are they doing? Possibly, Garland crossed our minds as we pondered the latter questions. If so, you might be surprised at the person featured smack dab in the middle of the article in the website I am about to send you. This person is in Washington right now, possibly in jail again (where he ended up last time he went to Washington), and is scheduled to go to Iraq with CPT again in the fall even though HIS government is trying to keep him out. So, if you have time, read the whole article, if not, this website will take you to the middle of it. I'm sure I don't need to inform you that the author is a renowned theologian at the University of Chicago. And (we're in Austin--we believe in syncronicity), guess who was one of Marty's students: John D. Roth, author of our "Stories" book. Hmmm! http://books.google.com/books?id=R6LjSSXUcXQC&pg=PA18&dq=Distinguished+Flying+Cross+%2B+Garland+Robertson&ei=543dR_X3A5G0yQSsxbXaAQ&sig=9OBNRg4UZCF-Uox8KpFsdap9nGU Ray PS to John D. Roth: Garland Robertson decided to join your/our Menno story about 5 years ago and is now pastor of Austin Mennonite Church. -- Center for Strength-based Strategies Ray Gingerich, Associate 5631 Bentwood Lane Greendale (Milwaukee), WI 53129 phone (512) 569-7111 email rjgingerich@xxxxxxxxx fax (815) 371-2292 website: www.buildmotivation.com "Change is possible when I stop trying to become that which I am not and become that which I am." Frederick Perls John D. Roth Prof. of History Editor--The Mennonite Quarterly Review Director, The Mennonite Historical Library Goshen College Goshen, IN 46526 http://www.goshen.edu/mqr TEL (574) 535-7433 FAX (574) 535-7438 -- Center for Strength-based Strategies Ray Gingerich, Associate 5631 Bentwood Lane Greendale (Milwaukee), WI 53129 phone (512) 569-7111 email rjgingerich@xxxxxxxxx fax (815) 371-2292 website: www.buildmotivation.com "Change is possible when I stop trying to become that which I am not and become that which I am." Frederick Perls