Yes its me once again tonight. Guess I'm on a roll. I am doing lettering using a true type font and applied an outline to it. It stitched out not too bad but I wanted to add compensation to the outline so I changed it to wire frame. Highlighted the single line center and increased pull comp. It stitched out fine but I forgot to add tie ins and offs. After I enabled the tie in/tie off it loaded strange into the OS. It showed up like a thumbnail in top right corner or OS screen. It would not do a fit to screen. Put hoop on and tried doing trace and it said out of limits and traced this huge path that definitely wasn't my lettering area. Then I couldn't do anything with the machine. When I tried centering my hoop, it told me it wasn't at head up--it was! Don't ask me how long it took me to determine that it was the tie in/tie off enabling that caused this to happen-I went through numerous checks to see what caused this version of the design not to work when the previous one did. Does anyone know what is going on here? I don't think that ties are put into the true type fonts when I bring them into design shop. What am I doing wrong? How can I make sure the tie stitches are in my lettering? Thanks, Susan Susan Riedlinger Embroidery Station Columbus, OH __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com