Roland Just remember that the 65/9 tend to bend much easier than the 75/11. I have to slow down to 1000 spm or slower depending on the design and fabric. It is well worth your time to call Madeira and get a mixed box of 10 each 1500 meter 60wt thread. I usually only get 30-50000 stitches from a 65/9 though. When you start to break thread look at the needle. Jack Fuller -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roland R. Irish III Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 09:24 To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Re: smallest font in program? Okay, here's what I know... smaller needles-I find 75/11 and 65/9 balls, and 75/11 sharps. As far as I know, Sue has not changed any needles to smaller ones yet-just replacing dull or broken ones with the 75/11 as needed. We are running needles 1-8 with sharps, and then usually the same colors 9-16 with balls. Most of what we have been doing has been hats and shirts or jackets for same clients-this way we don't have to change needles. Although I have run both needles on hats with no problem.... didnt' even know I had smaller needles-Sue is trying to be the 'setup' person and I do the digitizing-we just haven't got the experience yet to know all this stuff. We just muddle through until a design works-then sew it out and learn from that! We have only the one weight thread-I bought the 288 spool 'kit' from Melco and then replace small ones we use with large spools-figure that is the easiest way to build up a bank of colors that we use a lot of. On teeshirts and light polos it seems to work best if I use double layer of 1.8 oz tearaway (somewhere I'm going to find some heavier tearaway-I know it's out there). solvy I use on pique knit and some fleece. Density-everything seems to 'default' to 3.2 or 3.5, so I'm learning to automatically 'bump it' up to 4 and higher-but don't get fine edges over 4.2. Tried a simple line on shirts for last weekend at 4.5 and it was jagged edge-think I ended up at 4 to get it cleaner. Instead of a font I redrew it as 'single line' and had a stitch width of 4. Still alot of learning to do-too much other work (I do screen printing, engraving, sign and banner making, vinyl cutting, etc.) so I can't stop for a week and just 'play'- no time! So I end up 'playing' with each order-making samples on other stuff to compare against. Roland > From: "Linen Barn" <linen@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Reply-To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:45:50 -0700 > To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [amayausers] Re: smallest font in program? > > Roland, > > Have you tried smaller needle (65/9) w/ 60 wt thread. I actually use the > 65/9 needles fairly often with 40 wt thread and get a nice clean look on > small text. I usually do this on my EMT which runs slower (650 spm) so you > may want to slow the machine down for that part of the design, especially if > you go small needle with 40 wt. > > Also, what density are you using for your design. I would use 4.5 and go > from there. If you are sewing on knits make sure to hoop nice and snug and > use solvy on top. > > Aaron Sargent > The Linen Barn > linen@xxxxxxxxxxx > Medford, OR > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 7:43 AM > Subject: [amayausers] Re: smallest font in program? > > >> HI all...we've been pulling our hair out trying to figure out which font >> will go the smallest without major thread breaks (some of those problems >> we >> are fixing-needle angle, MT, etc.) >> have a client's shirt to duplicate (they got it somewhere else) and the >> group name measures 3/16", .1875 high. So far we have been unable to sew a >> 'straight line' font even .2" and have it look decent. This is a >> 'helvetica' >> , 'arial', 'avantegarde' style font-probably 'microblock' but we are >> unable >> to get a decent sew out. Had other designs that needed small fonts-I ended >> up 'hand writing' the lettering with 'walk normal stitch' to simulate the >> lettering-that was the best I could do for this small type. But the design >> I >> have to do now-the lettering is on 2 lines with no design near it-so 'hand >> lettering' would look terrible. >> It is all capital letters, .1875 high, and I'd guess the column width is >> about 2 stitches? But it looks so clean and sharp, very legible... >> I know we must be doing something wrong with settings-so what should be >> done >> right? >> Thanks >> Roland >> > >