This message was posted by signman on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/402.html#000005 Here's what I do, and I do the digitizing and spec samples here, send them out to Dick & Pat to sew on their 12 Amayas & XT's and they say it works perfect on their end also. I setup the design to do any lettering down on the brim first...center out. Then whatever design there is above it (or if just a design) I do a quick outline of the whole image in normal walk stitch, 20 pt, to tie it to the backing. Then the design is sewn out-and whenever possible, always with the bottom (brim area) first, center out to edge, work your way up. This way you have tied everything down to the backing...lettering, always set for 5.5 or higher (less dense) and as you are sewing, excess material is going to be pushed 'up' to the top of the hat and out of the way. If you sew out design first and then lettering down to the brim-all the excess material is being forced against the brim and has no where to go so it bunches up and/or moves the face of the hat. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================