Okay, now I'm confused. Our Amaya came with 2 'wide angle' cap holders (32530)-same ones we trained on in New Jersey. When we couldn't get them to work on unstructured low profile hats, I bought the CCF (12155) hat holders...and it fits on the 'hooping stand' clamped to the counter, and the same 'driver' on the Amaya-if that is what the driver is. We didn't get a different unit to mount on the Amaya. Both cap frames fit the one driver-and the shop in Maine we just traded one of the WACF hoops for 2 of the CCF hoops has the same thing. > Roland, > > The description of the clip is for the Wide Angle Conventional Cap > Frame. I > think in the software in the hoop list it is listed as CCF/WAD > (Conventional > Cap Frame/Wide Angle Driver). The description of the bill clip I > gave you > the part number for states it is for the Conventional Cap Frame > that fits on > the Wide Angle Driver. The standard CCF will not fit on the Wide Angle > Driver, it fits on the CCF (Conventional Cap Frame) Driver. The 2 > types of > drivers are different, and the frames are not interchangeable > between them. > The Conventional Cap Frame and driver was what was sold with > earlier Melco > machines. Melco did not have the Wide Angle or 270 degree stuff > until the > EMT or tubular machines came into existence. > > The part number I gave you should be the right one. > > Jeff Banks > Melco Embroidery Systems > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 3:57 PM > Subject: [amayausers] Re: hat holder clamp > > > Jeff, is this billholder for the WACF or the CCF? The holes > predrilled in the CCF are not the same spacing as the WACF hoop-we > tried. If it is the right one, I'll have to call in an order and get > some if affordable. > Roland > > Sunrise Graphics > 116 Main St > Claremont, NH 03743 > 603-543-1324 > fax 603-543-9902 > www.sunrisegraphics.org > signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > On Feb 28, 2006, at 4:54 PM, Jeff Banks wrote: > > >> HI Roland, >> >> It is in the Amaya Parts manual that is shipped on CD with the >> machine. It >> is in the Options section of the manual. The part you are looking >> for is >> called "Bill Holder For Conventional Cap Frame for Wide Angle >> Driver". It is >> part number 12180. >> >> Jeff Banks >> Melco Embroidery Systems >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 1:43 PM >> Subject: [amayausers] Re: hat holder clamp >> >> >> >> >>> when the tech was up here last week he noticed I used the CCF >>> instead >>> of WACF hooper...we ran off some hats and he showed me the problem. >>> The CCF hoop doesn't have the 'brim' holder that the WACF does. Says >>> he thought it was available from Melco but I don't find anything in >>> the catalog for it. Definitely will make a difference in the hats. >>> Anyone seen this brim clamp for the CCF? >>> Roland >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > >