This message was posted by signman on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/786.html#000007 If your lettering is large enough, I create a manual 'stitch line' using the normal stitch 'tool' and just run a centerline following the letters without stopping-on the white furry cuffs I use white thread. This will tie your two layers together before any satin stitching (the letters) that causes the shifting. Also ties down the long fur to keep it out of the way as you do the letters. Tried doing 'background' fills and it made it look like a 'patch' so I went to just the 'centerline' (don't do it as an 'underlayment' in the lettering properties). The idea is to do the entire word at once-not letter by letter. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================