This message was posted by Rod or Sharon on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/418.html#000002 Yuk Patty! I hate doing vertical sleeves (but be glad they are shirts and not the bulky garments--just finished a coat and did use the Fast Frame but there isn't enough room for the garment to bunch up at the back end. We did a ton of sweatshirts last year the same and used every bit of the 11 inches available to us. You don't have to always use the sticky backing. We have marked the garment, placed it and a stabilizer over the Fast Frame and then used clamps along the sides of the Fast Frame--all around it. Be VERY CAREFUL that you use a low clamp so nothing catches on anything when it does the trace however. Good luck, Sharon =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================