Susan, Once upon a time, people use to put in their own tie in's, tie off's, underlays, and so on... when they would digitize. Now the software has gotten rather fancy and with the click of a button, you can put tie in's and tie off's everywhere but the kitchen sink. But you are always welcome to put tie in's and off's, jump stitches, manual stitches, etc... anywhere you want to. That's the beauty of understanding the software. I say play around all you want and if you aren't careful, you just might learn something you can teach the rest of us. As for converting to wire frame from say, an EXP file. That feature in the software is a really powerful tool. But it is just that - a tool. Only use it as you need it. And only convert the elements you need to as opposed to the entire design. Converting to wire frame utilizes some fancy schmantzy software formulas that makes a facsimile of the original data as best as it knows how. But that's not to say things in the design won't change. It could be a subtle trim right in the middle of a fill stitch. You'll scratch you head asking why did it do that? So be prepared to clean a few items up as necessary. I would say it's something like scanning a photo to a computer and then printing out the picture. It's gonna look real close to the original- but with a microscope, one can tell it has been altered. (That's the best analogy I can think of right now.) Sometimes, it might just be faster to redigitize a design from scratch rather than trying to redo something someone sent you digitized with different software. You'll have to make that call. Ed -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of suried@xxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 7:31 PM To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Tie Ins/offs From a few comments Rod has made I am assuming the #5 tie in/off is the best to use. What is the reasoning for this and are there times when #5 isn't the best? Also, Is it better to manually put in ties and trims instead of just checking that off in the properties box? And Lastly, when a design is converted to wire frame are any of the properties lost--i.e. ties, trims, etc? Thanks, Susan Susan Riedlinger Embroidery Station Columbus, OH __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL ? Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com