[amayausers] Re: Presser foot theory
- From: "Body Cover" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:33:43 -0700
Thanks Ed,
You explained that very well
and shined some light on the subject that I hadn't
seen before, It makes perfect sense now.
and I apologize to any Melco participants that may
have taken offense to my comment.
It was very confusing until you explained that.
Ed, you the man!!
Ron Vinyard
Body Cover / Magic Stitches
1-888-435-0176
420 SW H street
Grants Pass, OR 97526
info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.bodycoverdesign.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "E. Orantes" <e3m@xxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 8:12 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Presser foot theory
> Guys,
> Sometimes, when troubleshooting a problem, trying things differently can
> give you vital informative results which leads you closer to a solution for
> that problem. Even if you are instructed to do something different than
> what you had been taught previously.
> The Presser Foot, for most embroiderers is a relatively new concept. Not
> really, it's been around since the beginning of sewing time, but on some, if
> not all machines prior to the Amaya, the presser foot had no height
> adjustment or if it did, was so involved that no one ever changed it or even
> knew how. So you ask, then why do I need a presser foot that has a variable
> height adjustment?
> First of all, the name, Presser foot, should have been called, the
> "Material Hold-down Foot". Because that's what it's for - specifically as
> the needle is being removed from the fabric. When you push the needle into
> the fabric, it's possible for the needle to "stick" or "wedge" itself
> between other tight stitches in the fabric. If you didn't have a presser
> foot on your machine, as the needle would rise back up, the fabric would go
> up with it. Do this at a rapid pace and you've got what's called "vertical
> flagging" and as we all know, flagging in any direction in embroidery is a
> bad thing. (The word flagging comes from what a flag looks like whipping
> around in the wind.)
> On other machines, the presser foot is pretty much set at one height which
> is about an eight of an inch or so off the top of the needle plate. This
> amount of space is adequate for most fabrics plus a few layers of backing
> and topping too. For most embroidery, this works great across the board.
> If you have to go to something thicker like a thick suede, leather,
> blanket, jacket, bag, etc.. or say you put on the machine a thicker needle
> plate for doing caps, the presser foot will give because it's spring loaded
> and will push up if necessary. However, the original height is now too low
> for these thicker applications and what results is a "peltering" or "beating
> of the fabric" by the presser foot. This is very unnecessary and could
> leave marks on the fabric, create an annoying tapping noise on the machine,
> and in time, may cause for the inner workings of the presser foot mechanism
> to wear more so than not. However, as a tech, I see this in people's shops
> all the time. And they don't know any better, nor do they care. It's just
> one more thing for them to think about and if the customer doesn't have a
> problem with it, neither do they (I'm thinking about comments from the last
> customer I talked to about this).
> So on the Amaya, this subject was addressed by the engineers and the
> "easily adjustable presser foot" was born. The operative word here is
> "easily". Other machines have adjustments too but you have to remove
> machine covers, use screwdrivers, "eye ball" settings, etc.. More than
> anyone really cares to fool with. Some embroiderers with older machines
> have addressed this issue by having a few of their needles set with a raised
> presser foot setting all the time. When they do have to sew a thick
> garment, they simple use those particular needles. That's one more benefit
> of having multiple needles on one machine. **Remember that on other
> machines, each needle has it's own presser foot unlike the Amaya that has
> one, that is shared by all 16 needles.
> So this is a real nifty "bells and whistle" type of feature that comes in
> handy for those who choose to employ it's benefits. If not, you can run
> your machine like all the other conventional type machines by simply
> lowering your presser foot to it's lowest setting and never touching it
> again. It's really a matter of choice.
> One major problem Melco has had with this feature- the easily adjustable
> presser foot, is the "operator error" part of the deal. The operator raises
> the presser foot to run a thick garment, and then forgets to lower it again
> for the next thinner garment. What usually happens next are consistent
> thread breaks. And the operator complains that the machine is "bad". I
> wish I had a nickel for every time this has happened.
>
> So if someone in the technical department suggests for you to run your
> machine with the presser foot setting all the way down, and your problems go
> away, it could have been an operator error type of problem. If you do the
> same and you still have problems, then other areas of the machine should be
> considered.
>
> As for WD-40 on/in the machine... you could put peanut butter in your
> rotary hook and I'm sure it would have some lubrication properties, but it
> would be a pain to get all of it out (especially the crunchy kind). The oil
> that is recommended for the rotary hook is a clear, light weight, minimal
> odor type of oil. If you were to overdo it a little with too many drops of
> oil in the rotary hook and accidentally get oil on the garment, you might be
> able to recover without a loss. The issue with WD-40, and all other types
> of oils or lubricants is first, are they capable of lubricating the rotary
> hook to engineering standards and second, what kind of stain will you have
> to clean on the garment if you put too much WD-40 on the rotary hook.
> Remember that most cans of WD-40 have a sprayer type of nozzle which means
> if you're not careful, it's going everywhere you don't want it to be. So
> it's really more of an issue of quantity and control.
> Hope this helps. Now back to taxes...
> Ed
>
> Ed & Maralien Orantes
> E.M. Broidery
> 900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200
> New Orleans, La. 70056
> 504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Body Cover
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:46 AM
> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Exasperation - Happy Now
>
>
> WHAT!?!??!
> I have trouble believing that they think the presser
> foot should be all the way down on everything!!
> That seems to go against all the documentation and
> common sense of why it is even there.
> Is it any wonder that we have so many problems
> when the people we count on for answers aren't
> even consistent.
>
> Oh well
> I also heard that we weren't supposed to touch the machine at all
> with WD-40 anywhere at anytime.
> I could be wrong though.
> I learn something new everyday.
>
> Ron Vinyard
> Body Cover / Magic Stitches
> 1-888-435-0176
>
> 420 SW H street
> Grants Pass, OR 97526
>
> info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.bodycoverdesign.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lee or Terri Hoover" <lhoover2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:35 AM
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Exasperation - Happy Now
>
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I've been having problems with fraying threads on any/all needles.
> Thought
>> it had to do with operator errors (mine). Tried many things, including
>> replacing all rollers, all needles, and bobbin case. And checked rotary
>> hook for burrs and timing - seemed ok. Things improved but still a problem
>> here and there. Never could get a complete sew out without fraying
> thread.
>> Then it started getting worse again. Finally came to my senses and called
>> Melco. The following is what they had me do to clean the rotary hook
> area.
>> Everything seems to be ok. (They seemed to think that using adhesive
>> backing and spray adhesive tends to "mess" up the rotary hook area.)
>>
>> To clean out the rotary hook area:
>> Unthread at needle
>> Raise thread feed roller
>> Remove bobbin casing
>> Turn off thread detection in settings
>> Have machine speed set to at least 1100
>>
>> Start machine, when it gets up to speed:
>> spray WD40 soaking bobbin area
>> Spray air to blow out WD40
>>
>> Repeat
>>
>> (Note: may want to have cloth on table to catch excess)
>>
>> Stop machine
>>
>> "Trim Immediate" from keypad
>> Rethread machine
>> Close roller
>> Set thread detection on
>> Replace bobbin
>>
>> On another note he said to keep the pressure foot all the way down on most
>> everything. On towels maybe raise it 1-2 notches.
>>
>>
>
>
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