Yes, we use a Pantone Guide http://www.pantone.com/pages/products/product.aspx?pid=53&ca=1 If you do a lot of logo work, most colors are specified as PMS colors. We use the "Coated" colors (printed on shiny paper), finding the specified PMS number and then holding the color next to a likely match on the thread chart. I find that far more accurate than the matches that are on any of the charts or programs. But...with only 300 or so thread colors and 1100+ PMS colors, there's not always going to be a close match, so having the customer decide is a good idea. I don't see how a Pantone Guide is supposed to help you match an ARC color to Madeira, though. You'd need both thread charts and if you had those, you could compare without using a pantone guide! Don Terradon Embroidery terradon@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.terradonembroidery.com -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of AthenaAccents@xxxxxxx Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 3:48 PM To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Pantone guide Hi all, I spoke to another embroiderer today about matching an ARC color to a Madeira color. (the thread converter chart did not work). She first made a snooty comment about "who on earth is still using Melco thread", then was aghast when I replied that I didn't have a Pantone book. Ok, I didn't even know what a Pantone book was, so I looked it up on the Internet. So, now my questions are: 1. How many of you use one of these things regularly? 2. If it is an embroidery shop necessity, how new does it need to be?, 3. How exactly do you use it with embroidery thread? (hope that one doesn't sound TOO dumb....) Thanks, Dumb and Dumber aka Bessie and Kim Athena Embroidery Accents ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list =========================================================== =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================