Hi all, I spoke to another embroiderer today about matching an ARC color to a Madeira color. (the thread converter chart did not work). She first made a snooty comment about "who on earth is still using Melco thread", then was aghast when I replied that I didn't have a Pantone book. Ok, I didn't even know what a Pantone book was, so I looked it up on the Internet. So, now my questions are: 1. How many of you use one of these things regularly? 2. If it is an embroidery shop necessity, how new does it need to be?, 3. How exactly do you use it with embroidery thread? (hope that one doesn't sound TOO dumb....) The Pantone Matching System was developed for the printing industry to match ink colors mostly for newspaper advertising. It can be a handy tool for embroiders if the customer supplies a Pantone or PMS color for the embroiderer. There are tons of shades of each color in the book, so matching to a thread chart is not always easy. However, most thread suppliers will attempt to match it for you if you will provide the number. I bought one back in 1995 and use it several times a month. It's best use for me is specifying a color for my screenprinter. Jimmie Jones TJ's Designs Vallejo CA ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================