This message was posted by Wayne on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/1148.html#000001 Double hoop for sure. I've had some Carharts that took two people to hoop. One to hold down hoop and one to tighten hoop. Then pray it doesn't jump out. I use a small rubber mallet to tap the hoop in place on those really thick jackets. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================