Darlene, I had done a lot of hats prior to getting an XT and the hoops still gave me trouble at first. Once I started focusing on getting the center seam perpendicular all the level issues went away. Janel Silver Star Embroidery From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darlene Weber Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 5:48 AM To: Amaya Subject: [amayausers.com] Hat design I am looking for some suggestions from all of you veterans as to how to make sure a hat design is hooped level!!!!!!!!! I have a couple logos that need to be sewn on hats that are just one line. Is there a way that any of you have discovered to make sure that the hat is evenly hooped to make sure the logo is level??? Thanks for all of your help! Darlene