This message was posted by Steve I on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/3/686.html#000001 Bill, Open your file in DS and check that object. Looks like it is satin instead of a fill. The reason you are getting trims is because the stitch length is greater than the length set for auto trim within the object so the trims wont appear on the tree view (just like trims within a lettering object). Steve I. Trinity Embroidery =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================