=0D =0D Darlene,=0D The HoopTech and the Slimline sytems are primarily one and the same. I a= m not sure exactly where Sharon bought ours but we have both the smaller ve= rsion and the larger jacket back version. i do know that Melco sells them a= nd has them on their website and in their catalog. Sharon purchased the jac= ket back version just to do a bunch of Carhart coats with, and found out ve= ry quickly that it would not work. There is not enough room at the top of t= he clamp for the excess material regardless if the jacket is right side up = or upside down and you can;t get a large design low enough to center = it onthe jacket back.......bummmer!!!! Left chests designs work fine as yo= u can turn the design sideways and insert the zipper side of the coat in , = clamp, and sew.=0D They have worked great on everything else we have tried. On larger items= we use extra little alligator clamps to help hold the garment in the clamp= jawsto keep them from slipping.....other than that we have found them to = bea very useful tool to add to our inventory.....=0D As mentioned before, taping regular backing to the fast frames or bendin= g the front edge of the backing as Roland described and then using small al= ligator or simular low profile clamps, works well in place of the sticky ba= cking on the fast frames. The more tech work I perform, the more I find mys= elf shying away from sticky sprays and/or the use of sticky backings .= MaybeI shouldn't say this but I believe the new XT Amayas do not like&nbs= p;and or are less compatible to the use of these sticky compounds then the= older Amayas. The sticky can build up on the knife, thread selector and ro= tary hook and cause some serious trimming problems. So, I guess my advice i= s to use them only when absolutely nothing else will work in their place...= ...=0D Rod Springer=0D Melco Trained Tech=0D Boise, Idaho On Sat Oct 14 12:06 , Darlene Weber <image_maker31@xxxxxxxxx> sent= : =0D Can someone give me s= ome input as to which clamp system you would recommend and why??? I have tw= o Amaya XT machines and am looking for a way of possibly getting away from = using sticky backing when I am doing hard to hoop items. Has anyone ever fo= und anything that will not work on the clamp system??? Thanks! Dave Kohler <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx[1]> wrote: EMS Hooptech makes a line of these, see them at www.hooptechproducts.c= om[2]. I use them regularly for caps and bags, great device, pricy but wh= atisn't these days in our field. Then google for "ICTCS1" or "ICTCS2" to find a likely vendor. 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