This message was posted by jacosandy on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/2/1232.html#000002 I always do the running tack down first. You need to do one outline first, this will be the outline for the fabric, then duplicate that the second is your fabric tack down, then duplicate that one and change it to satin stitching. I don't use my auto applique either. I have made the cutest in the hoop applique nurse doll that I offer for free on Sewing Forum by allbrands under jacosandy. Many of my free designs are there. Sandy in Costa Rica =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================