My goodness, 3D foam on .5" lettering. And you're new to embroidery? I salute you! In our shop, 3D foam falls under the category of specialized embroidery and costs more. There are limits too such as fonts, letter height, foam thicknesses, garment locations,... Remember certain fonts with block edges will need to be edited (capped) so as not to see foam protruding. Sometimes digitizing fees apply. Zig zag (double) underlay. Column density around 2.5 - 3.0. Try to use a foam close to the color of the thread you are using. Practice, practice, practice!!! Good luck. Ed Ed & Maralien Orantes E.M. Broidery 900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200 Terrytown, La. 70131 504-EMBROID (504-362-7643) or 504-433-0099 office 504-433-0100 fax -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Cheryl Rotter Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 1:09 PM To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] 3D Foam Question I need some help with 3D Foam application on Visors. Visor is 2 inches tall and has a Brody Script one line design measuring ½ inch tall. I have been playing with density and fabric thickness but I still see little tiny raggedy pieces of foam showing on the outside of the column stitches. I am using underlay; edge walk and a center walk to tack down the foam. What density do you suggest for both the column and the underlay? Any other suggestions??? I am a brand new embroiderer (since November) any help is greatly appreciated. Cheryl Rotter Team Sports Ink 5111 Grumann Dr. Ste #1B Carson City, NV 89706 775-884-3550