This is beautiful. Thanks for sharing. Blessed Christmas to all
Ken and Flora Wilsker
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On Dec 22, 2020, at 7:06 PM, Ezequiel Martinez
<ezequiel.g.martinez@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear AHC group,
I’m a quiet member of this list and just wanted to share with you this
beautiful new song by Andrea Bocelli called “Gratia Plena”. This is the main
song for the recently released movie “Fatima”. The song is sung in many
different languages, and Hebrew is one of them.
Enjoy and blessings to you.
Ezequiel
https://youtu.be/uvhWrGFnXEs
On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 10:39 PM Rachael Murphy <rachael@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I'm very glad to hear, Brian, you have familiarity with Jewish commentaries
and those of the Church Fathers. You have an open mind more than most who
profess God's Presence through scripture alone.
With a sensitivity toward things of God, there are unmistakable times of
standing in God's Presence through the written word. As it is standing in
God's Presence through certain pieces of music.
Not all words, not all music.
Since you find God's Presence in Hebrew Scripture and the New Testament, who
am I to quibble ?
Rachael
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From: "robbinson(Redacted sender "robbinson" for DMARC)"
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 12/18/20 5:53 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: ahc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ahc] Re: Scripture alone
That’s Awesome Rachael - I read the Talmud often - but not because I think
it has the authority as God’s word - but because I find it interesting and
helps me connect with my Jewish heritage and culture. Interestingly, in
Orthodox Judaism the Talmud has the authority of scripture and is treated as
a “second Torah” (it is not). My point is not that there isn’t a “richness”
in understanding Church history and traditions that have evolved in the
Catholic Church (I’ve studied the Church fathers relatively extensively) and
am all the better for it - it is a question of what is actually God’s word
and what is the ‘gospel’.
My personal library of Theology (which is pretty extensive) has an robust
collection of Catholic resources and apologetic works, encyclicals and as
well as Hebrew Catholic works - I enjoy them immensely.
Blessings,
Brian
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On Friday, December 18, 2020, 7:34 PM, Rachael Murphy
<rachael@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Catholic tradition comes from Judaism and comes out of Judaism. The Catholic
faith stands on the shoulders of giants.
Judaism has its Torah but it also has its wonderful commentaries. Judaism
would be in great deficit without its traditions and commentaries by such
greats as Rabbi Akiva, Rashi, Maimonides, Rambam and Ramban, Ibn Ezra, and
Abravanel. These are among my favorites and an absolute delight to the mind
with every Sabbath portion.
Judaism is RICH. Too many Jewish texts all at once and I can easily get
spiritual indigestion !
The Catholic faith also would be much the poorer without its Traditions and
commentaries by the Church Fathers and Church Doctors -- St Ambrose
(especially on the Psalms), St Jerome, St Augustine, St Athanasius, St Cyril
of Jerusalem (with his commentaries to the newbies to the Faith), St
Catherine of Siena, St Thomas Aquinas and St Alphonsus Liguori (check out
his commentaries on the Rosary).
Check out: https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/ ;
Check out the Liturgy of the Hours: the Office of Readings in the second
reading.
Check out:
https://www.crossroadsinitiative.com/media/articles/doctors-of-the-catholic-church/
Certainly, I could survive on a "simple" diet, but why in the world would I
want to limit myself if I had the opportunity and the ability to savor such
deep wells of delicacies ? It was the wealth of Office of Reading
commentaries which brought me into the Catholic Faith.
Those who wish to remain with Scripture only are certainly welcome to it. I
will defend to the death a person's right to do so.
I for one, however, will continue to dive into both Jewish and Catholic
commentaries as often as time and energy allows.
One life time is never enough to mine even a thimbleful of one of these
absolute gems.
Rachael Murphy
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From: robbinson (Redacted sender "robbinson" for DMARC)
To: ahc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, 18 December, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: [ahc] Re: Testing
Thank you for the kind note David
If you are willing and interested, I would be willing to discuss any or all
of the points you just made (in love) live via phone or zoom. Of course I
would not be offended if you chose to decline that offer.
God gave us the the Old and the New Testament (the body of believers
“accepted” them). The Eucharist is a big topic for sure.
Scripture alone I would suggest is by definition a biblical perspective - Of
course, Jesus said things that were not written down in books (we know this
because scripture told us this), but scripture is sufficient (also by its
own terms) and we need to examine closely traditions or extra biblical
teachings against God’s word.
Wishing you a wonderful Christmas as well - it is such a beautiful and
special time of year.
In Christ,
Brian
