hi all, it seems the piece of software mentioned in the article i was trying to trace earlier, namely CoPilot live 7, is no longer available. or ratehr there doesn't seem to have been a european version for some time aimed at pc users. so, has anyone had any success using an alternative product? I'm a user of humanware's trekker software, but i'm interested in finding a mainstream product that's accessible, if one exists! smile. kevin - (lord l) "Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice"-Will Durant contact me: email/msn: kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx skype: lordandladyl