[access-uk] Re: no discussion regarding accessability on the latest windows consumer preview breaffing by microsoft
- From: Shaun O'Connor <capricorn8159@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 17:47:18 +0000
over time the original BIOS will be phased out and be replaced with
uefi.( this phase of transition began, I think in 2011 )
For the geeks among you UEFI stands for unified extensible firmware
interface.
the logic behind this transition is that BIOS is inherently insecure,
On 22/01/2015 17:30, Steve Nutt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Also, some PCs now have Windows utilities that allow you to access the BIOS
> from within Windows itself.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
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> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Mike Ray
> Sent: 22 January 2015 16:00
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> Subject: [access-uk] Re: no discussion regarding accessability on the latest
> windows consumer preview breaffing by microsoft
>
>
> You're need to get sighted assistance to make BIOS changes has nothing
> to do with Windows.
>
> Last weekend I gave a presentation at the Portsmouth Linux User Group
> about accessibility on Linux. I took a spare laptop along because I
> needed BIOS help, which, believe me, galls me because I flatly refuse to
> use a Linux distro I can't install without sighted assistance.
>
> If you have a Mac on which BIOS settings are accessible then that is
> likely to be more to do with the machine architecture than the OS.
>
> MS should have included at least a statement of the state of the
> accessibility sub-system. For example...I am curious to know whether
> Windows 10 still includes MSAA or has it switched entirely to UIA?
>
> Mike
>
>
> On 22/01/2015 15:46, David Griffith wrote:
>> I disagree. Microsoft still have a lot to do.
>> Since 2011 I have never had to employ support for any issues on my Mac
>> because Accessibility is built into the OS across the system. So for
>> example, when a problem occurred with my OS last year I was able to
>> format my primary drive and download and install a completely fresh copy
>> of Mac OS and then restore all my apps and data without any sighted
>> help. This is possible on the Mac because Accessibility support is
>> inbuilt across the OS.
>>
>> On Windows the situation is completely different. For example I know of
>> no accessible way of looking at BIOS settings. So in the same period I
>> have on average had to employ assistance fairly regularly to cope with
>> problems which arise with my Windows PC. None of these issues are beyond
>> me technically but simply require someone with sight to resolve. I
>> thought I had protected myself with a combination of Re-image and
>> Snapshot packages on the windows side but as I discovered a couple of
>> weeks ago it takes only a minor hardware glitch for these packages to
>> fall over despite these precautions. In this situations the images
>> become useless and a new install is required. . Then once again the
>> need for sighted help re-emerges.
>> People are trying to develop talking windows installers but Microsoft
>> should embed this accessibility into all its installation packages.
>>
>> David Griffith
>>
>> On 22/01/2015 12:35, Steve Nutt wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Who cares? We don't need one. Just download NVDA.
>>>
>>> All the best
>>>
>>> Steve
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>>> Subject: [access-uk] no discussion regarding accessability on the latest
>>> windows consumer preview breaffing by microsoft
>>>
>>> Hi all.
>>> First of all want to apologize for cross posting but want to raise an
>>> important question.
>>> For all who have not watched the presentation that Microsoft put out
>>> regarding the win 10 consumer preview this is the audio link.
>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16617710/videoplayback.m4a
>>> Note.
>>> The presentation is a full presentation without the cutting off of the
>>> question answer session
>>> I have only converted into audio so that it becomes small to download.
>>> The original video presentation is about 1.35 GB
>>> In the entire presentation of about 2hrs 19 min and 23 seconds
>>> Microsoft has not discussed on accessibility or regarding adding a
>>> screen reader to windows 10 and I mean full fledge screen reader.
>>> So now what do we do next.
>>> Although there are some fantastic things in this presentation will not
>>> spoil the excitement watch and see
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