It's been a while since I last did a pay as you go phone, the last one was a Virgin some years ago which remained unregistered for a considerable period of months despite which worked and topped up fine. The registration as far as I know does not take place at the shop to this day. You usually can register later and as far as I know is not contingent upon the phone's activation. Therefore there is a real risk these dissappear to an unknown and effectively untraceable owner. Also since no actually billing takes place it is possible to provide any, or perhaps no address at all. There have been repeated attempts to enforce a full registration policy for these type of phones that has as far as I know has been resisted by the industry on the basis of not frightening customers away, Now perhaps that that market is no longer actually expanding in any meaningful way the phone companies will be more interested in donig it. The security measure you describe is therefore likely to be the industry's way of meeting government agencies and attendant security organisations halfway. Regards. Tristram Llewellyn Sight and Sound Technology Technical Support www.sightandsound.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: Derek Hornby To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 12:53 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: mobiles query Hi Tristram I take your point yes. However what if you wanted to buy 4 handsets. You may want 1 for your own use, 2 for your children, and one as a spare should yours suddenly fail! But don't all pay & go phones have to be registered (usually at time of the first top up) Maybe they need a set-up like having a car,. in that the car must have a registered keeper, so mobiles should be like that! Regards, Derek e-mail: derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq