[access-uk] file types was: Re: windows pc vs mac
- From: RAJMUND <brajmund2000@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:43:53 +0100
Hello,
Now, regarding these, I have a question. How is txt doing?
----- Original Message -----
From: David Griffith <daj.griffith@xxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, 24 October 2014 6:16 am
Subject: [access-uk] Re: windows pc vs mac
>
>
> My own view on accessible formats is that doc is unfortunately whilst
> familiar to us old timers dying a death as the years go by. Whilst legacy
> support still exists it has not been used as the main Word format for any
> main word processor 8 years now and show no sign of making a comeback.
> Personally I recommend for optimum read accessibility htm or html which
> supports all the useful navigation elements of reading by heading and tables
> etc on any browser supported by a screenreader. If someone cannot use these
> commands they can use arrow keys as in a normal document but at least you
> have the options.
> If the document needs to be editable I always recommend rtf as this is freely
> editable on all main platforms with full support for the vast majority of
> features. They can be freely read by WordPad onWindows and TextEdit on the
> mac still uses it as its default format.
>
> David Griffith
> > On 24 Oct 2014, at 00:08, RAJMUND <brajmund2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > How about a 97/2003 .doc file? Would that not be better than anything else?
> > There are still a lot of people with Xp, after all.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: mjw <matthewjwilliams101@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Friday, 24 October 2014 12:05 am
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: windows pc vs mac
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> I was actually thinking of others on the list. I myself use QRead which
> >> handles PDFs quite well.
> >> But in answer to your question, I think the old ASCII format is still the
> >> safest choice as far as the vast majority of us screen readers are
> >> concerned. If the text has headings and tabular formattings then you could
> >> try html which is also very usable these days. I just feel PDF is far too
> >> slow and unstable to manage.
> >> Kind regards, Matt
> >> At 23:56 23/10/2014, you wrote:
> >>
> >> @Matt.what formal would you prefer the guide be in, I can maybe
> >> investigate the possibility of conversion to an alternative format.
> >> On 23/10/2014 23:40, mjw wrote:
> >>
> >> Would it be possible to offer a more usable format to our friends on the
> >> list? I would be happy to help with the conversion.
> >> Matt
> >> At 15:32 23/10/2014, you wrote:
> >>
> >> if anyone is interested I have a derailed document on the voiceover
> >> features for the mac, however I should point out that it is in pdf format.
> >> I can either post a link to the file to the group or if preferred can send
> >> a copy via email to people individually off list.
> >>
> >> Just ask. ( smile)
> >> On 23/10/2014 15:07, David Griffith wrote:
> >>
> >> There are pos and cons of having a Mac but nowadays I tend to spend more
> >> time on the Mac than Windows as I increasingly prefer the OS.
> >> Of course the Mac can also runWindows, even with the Mac OS if you use
> >> Fusion so you can have the best of both worlds..
> >>
> >> However there is a definite learning curve to learning to use the Mac. I
> >> got a Mac ;in 2011 and I am still learning all the time. If you have some
> >> sight transferring to the Mac will not be so much of a learning curve but
> >> using Voiceover is very different from using Windows Screenreaders. In
> >> some areas voiceover is more powerful than any Windows screenreader but in
> >> others less so. What is undeniable is that you need to learn a whole new
> >> skill set, people often forget how much they invested in learning Windows
> >> and a similar effort will be required to get the most out of OS and
> >> Voiceover.
> >> iTunes is most definitely accessible an as are the majority of
> >> applications which come from Apple.
> >>
> >> I copy below some Podcasts I have done on using the Mac which may give you
> >> an idea. There are a couple on iTunes.
> >>
> >> Podcast List
> >>
> >> Using Safari on the Mac Part 5. Strategies for using and customising the
> >> Reading List.
> >>
> >> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/wmbw5w
> >>
> >> Previous Podcasts
> >> Using Safari on the Mac Part 4. Flexible Web with Sweet spots and Reader
> >> commands.
> >> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/alr2yi
> >>
> >>
> >> Using Safari on the Mac Part 3 Bookmarking part 2- Launching bookmarks and
> >> bookmarks folders from the Desktop / or the Dock.
> >> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/04aj3b
> >>
> >> Blank URL document template to use if dragging and dropping does not work
> >> on your Mac to create bookmark shortcuts.
> >> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/gvj63a
> >>
> >> Using Safari on the Mac Part 2 . Bookmarking Part 1 Bookmarking,
> >> organising bookmark folders and
> >> and organising quick access to Favourite web sites through the Favourites
> >> bar keystrokes.
> >> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/fpye9z
> >>
> >>
> >> Using Safari on the Mac Part 1 - The pros and cons of Quick Nav and the
> >> Web rota.
> >> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/qtftnl
> >>
> >> Using VLC to play upto 1000 Radio Stations on the Mac
> >> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/uev995
> >>
> >> Working Radio Stream Folder and sub folders containing over 1,000 Radio
> >> Streams as explained in the above Podcast.
> >>
> >> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/8v58fh
> >>
> >> Using VLC to play an RNIB Talking Books on the Mac with Variable Speed.
> >> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/kve0ky.
> >>
> >> Easy Music Listening with Column Browser in iTunes
> >> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/gp431y
> >>
> >>
> >> iTunes Part 2 Using Playlist to listen to RNIB and Mp3 Talking Books
> >> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/e6kohy
> >>
> >> Spell Checking on the Mac Part 1
> >> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/uuul6e
> >> Spell Checking on the Mac Part 2
> >> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/z5wvc8
> >>
> >> Part 3 Proof Reading on the Mac.
> >>
> >> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/b3m395
> >>
> >>
> >> An Introduction to the QFeed RSS Newsreader on the Mac
> >> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/02uu48
> >>
> >> Adding an RSS Feed from Safari to QFeed.
> >> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/tr5unm
> >> on
> >>
> >>
> >> On 23 Oct 2014, at 14:45, Tassie da hiphop kid <tassie@xxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey y'all.
> >> I'm looking for pros and cons of windows vs mac. I currently have a
> >> windows pc with windows 7 and an iphone. I cannot use itunes at all with
> >> nvda on windows and therefore my iphone is inaccessible with a pc. I am
> >> thinking of getting a mac to make my apple life easier. Is itunes fully
> >> accessible on a mac? What pros and cons for either system are there. I
> >> don't want to spend a grand and then wish i hadn't when i could get a
> >> beast of a pc for 500.
> >>
> >> I currently use programs such as firefox, wavepad, winamp, thunderbird,
> >> wordpad, skype, etc. I don't use office so the fact i've heard it isn't
> >> too accessible on a mac isn't an issue for me.
> >>
> >> Thanks, Louise.
> >>
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