Sorry folks, but I think that just maybe you're missing the point here. I'm guessing that Damon is objecting to the phrase 'the blind' as similarly others object to 'the disabled'. In other words, a convenient quick phrase like this denies our individuality. Maybe instead something along the lines, email lists for blind people Incidentally, 'blind' can, or could mean those with some vision if you accept 'blind' in the legal sense. From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Joan Muir Peter, couldn't agree more. I'm sick and tired of the euphemism, "visually impaired". Ok, some folks are visually impaired but I for one am definitely blind. I'm getting off my hobby horse now. Best wishes, Joan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Beasley" <peter@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 7:16 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: emailing lists for the blind >I am not ashamed to be called Bllind because that is exactly what I am. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Damon Rose" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 5:50 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: emailing lists for the blind > > > Do we have to use the phrase 'the blind' - I hate it. > =20 > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of Brendan Magill > Sent: 29 January 2007 17:26 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: emailing lists for the blind > > Many thanks for that info Dave. > > -- > BRENDAN MAGILL > Business, Employment & > Disability Consultancy > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq