Qell I don't get free travel. I get a third reduction if I have a pass - = the same as students. The thing I worry about most is not the cost but = whether we will have a 'public' transport system at all. Anyway this is all probably way off topic. Graham Lewis Centre for Academic Practice University of Warwick University House Kirby Corner Road Coventry CV4 8UW UK =20 Tel.: (+44) (0) 24 765 72737 Mobile: 07733450022 Fax.: (+44) (0) 24 765 727326 http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/services/cap/about/staff/lewis/ http://innovations.warwick.ac.uk/innovations/ http://cap.warwick.ac.uk/tdf >>> peterlogue@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 10/06/04 05:45am >>> Interesting question, Alexander . Should blind and visually impaired persons recieve free bus and train travel? Of course. Why not if its free. I'll take it. Most of us can = hardly afford it otherwise. But then should unemployed persons recieve free bus = and train travel, They, in most cases, make less than us, require the ability to travel to job interviews etc, so why not them, too. One can argue that they could drive, but that is hardly unlikely if they are unemployed. There's the argument that this benefitt was fought for us by the vetrans of bygone = wars. But that was then and this is now. So should we recieve free bus and train travel, especially in this day of privatization when shareholders are themselves asking the same question. Why are blind and visually impaired persons allowed to travel free. What about single mothers on welfare and dedicated unemployed persons seeking employment oppertunities.. Really. = Why should we get it for free? I've always believed that what the government gives us, the government can take away. Is it only a matter of time before we lose our free transit pass? From my point of view this isnt' fair to those living in the UK. As a Canadian living in the province of Ontario I have always paid full fare. I get free transit on our local bus which runs north and south once per = hour. But any intercity or from town to town is not free. There's no free rail travel, no D L A, no free grass cutting, no free houseing, you'd have to pay at least $175 per month, after an eight year wait for a one bedroom flat, if you're lucky. no free glasses, dental etc. But the government = does give me a free computer every five years, which I'm grateful for. A = disabled person in Ontario gets about $960 per month, which, at todays excellent rate, is about423 pounds per month. Its often less. Last month I had to = pay $650 for a root canal. I have an artificial eye. The cost of a new one is about $3,500. i'd have to pay about $900 of that, benifitt or not Should we get free bus and rail travel. Yes. But so should others. As I've said, what the government gives us, the government can take away. Peter ** To leave the list, send a message to:- ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, send a message, to=20 ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, send a message to:- ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq