Hello John, Yes, the G string being more flexible seems to make sense. I have heard that G strings are more susceptible to a twang or two than most other strings (grin)! But on a more serious note . . . There is no need to switch the metronome on to start tuning via the tuner's onboard mic. You can just press the on button and then the Tune button but you won't know, unless you can see the screen, that it has actually turned on OK in that case, because it makes no confirmatory noise. It is sometimes possible to turn it on in the way the user manual says, for example, if the batteries are running low, and it hasn't in fact come on, but you won't know this. the reason I always leave it in the metronome on state when I turn it on is so that, when you next turn it on, it starts beeping and therefore confirms that it has actually come on. You can then simply press the Tune button to turn it to tuning on and be certain that it is listening before you start turning tuning keys. Hope this clarifies the logic in this (if there is any). John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gregory" <jgm.gregory@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 4:59 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Message for John Wilson Re: Accessible Guitar Tuner Hi John, Thanks for the advice. I'll try the suggested button sequence to see if that helps. Thus far I have not been able to tune anything but the 'g' string, but this may be because I didn't know how to start. Strange, but the instruction manual doesn't say anything about having the metronome switched on prior to tuning, but if that's what you do then I will try it. I believe the tuner has a memory, so perhaps it remembers the setting from the previous use until the batteries run out. Cheers. John. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Wilson Sent: 17 November 2012 23:26 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Message for John Wilson Re: Accessible Guitar Tuner Hello John, I don't know if there is any initial setting up to do, as I bought mine from someone else but I would have thought that it would already be set up in standard tuning mode. The buttons are as follows: top left (round button): power on/off Under the above: tuner next one down: metronome Then the four along the bottom are: Left most: sound next: select Next: value down and the last, at the right: value up However, I only use it for its tuning abilities. I do not use the metronome, as I think that it is too quiet to hear properly whilst playing. I downloaded something called "Free Metronome" from the internet to use as a good, loud metronome, which works fine and is accessible. To ensure that the unit is both on and listening for your string plucks, what I do is press the on button, then the metronome button (it will start beeping) and then the tuning button. It should now be listening for your string sounds. After you have tuned all strings (and it has beeped for them all to confirm), I then press the metronome button again and turn it off. This means that when you next come to use it you only have to press the on button and then the tune button to start tuning. You can also tune manually using the buttons at the bottom. That way you would press the left button to turn sounds on and then use the right button to take you through the six notes to tune to. The button next to that takes you down through the notes. Anything else you might want to use it for, you will have to get someone sighted to go through it with you to set such things as the metronome speed up an change the pitch of the six notes if you wish to tune to anything other than the standard E tuning. A word of caution: it only stays in listening mode listening to your string plucks for about 10 minutes, after which it automatically turns itself off as a battery saving feature. If this happens you will not know, so every five minutes or so, if it takes you longer than this to tune up, turn it off and then back on to safeguard against you trying to tune when it is not on and wasting your time and possibly breaking strings if you go too high. HTH, John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gregory" <jgm.gregory@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 9:36 PM Subject: [access-uk] Message for John Wilson Re: Accessible Guitar Tuner Hi John, Have now got the Boss TU-80 tuner, but am having some problems in setting it up for tuning the guitar. Is it necessary to have sighted assistance to set this up, or do you have a sequence of button presses that you do to get to the guitar tuner and then each subsequent string? I downloaded the pdf version of the manual, but it is not exactly enlightening. Any assistance you could give would be much appreciated. John. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Wilson Sent: 11 November 2012 19:09 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible Guitar Tuner Yes, John, it omits a beep for each string when you reach the correct pitch. You just tune up to just below the correct string pitch and then use the tuner to get it perfect. John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gregory" <jgm.gregory@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 5:06 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible Guitar Tuner Hi John, Thanks for the info. Does the tuner emit a tone when the correct pitch is reached on each of the strings? Apologies for asking, but just wanted to clarify before going ahead and purchasing. Cheers. John. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Wilson Sent: 10 November 2012 15:08 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible Guitar Tuner Hello John, There is an audible guitar tuner and metronome for both electric and acoustic guitars called the Boss TU-80. I have one and it works fine. You can buy it on Ebay for around £20. The buttons are all feelable and it is easy to use for basic tuning. HTH, John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gregory" <jgm.gregory@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 12:06 AM Subject: [access-uk] Accessible Guitar Tuner Hi Folks, Has anyone come across a guitar tuner that is accessible to blind guitarists? Hundreds of tuners exist, but I cannot seem to find one which will indicate that the correct pitch has been achieved by sounding an audible tone (or stopping a tone when correct pitch is achieved). Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. 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