Hi Peter, I'm still using Norton Antivirus 2003 with the updated virus definition and I find it very good and works wonderful with Jaws. About Spybot: now there is the latest version of Spybot that is v1.4 and it's quite good, better than v1.3. I only found a conflict between Spybot and Handybits program and a little pain with the downloading and installing its updates. About Sppyware Blater, I'm using successfully the latest version that is 3.4 and I use the old scripts of spyware blaster from: www.jfwlite.com so it is very simple and easy to use. About spywareguard, it gives a protection in a real time but this program is not updated at least according to my knowledge. About Ad-aware, I'm using 1.06, and when the scan results tell me that something had been found, I'm going to the Jaws cursor and arrow up/donw and find "select all" and click on it, and then press alt+n and ok for removing. I hope this helps Moti Moti Azrad Musician & Piano-Tuner motia@xxxxxxx motiaz@xxxxxxxxx Israel ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Logue To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 5:33 PM Subject: [access-uk] MacAfee virus scan. After buying the product, I was amazed to find out that MacAfee virus scan requires sighted assistance to install, seems their install wizard is Java? Ditto for their firewall; the alert windows are not being picked up by jaws and therefore, these alert windows often hang the computer until you can figure out that a firewall alert window requires attention. These alert windows are off to the right hand side on the monitor. Saying okay to these program alerts is Probably doable with virtual viewer, then a Jaws find, but what a pain. Peter ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq