Hi Everyone All be it some people may like the idea of the Iphone but the cost has to be taken into consideration (approximately £35 a month on an 18 month contract) and as far as I'm aware it is still only available on the O2 network Sam -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tristram Llewellyn Sent: 09 June 2009 13:34 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: IPhone I am not anti-Apple (I own a machine or two and an iPod Touch and a regular Mac OS user) but I am unconvinced that a touchscreen can be a right interface for someone with no sight whatever. Even magnification is problematic on the iPhone/Touch given the size and the fact it is a touchscreen. I am also uncertain how what is intended to be in parts a gestural interface will work out in practice for those users who cannot see at all. Clearly the efforts on the iPhone are an outgrowth of their use of OS X (or at least a scaled down versio of it), work to make the device speak for use in the gym or GPS navigation and leveraging their multi-touch technology to provider a more sophisticated touchscreen interface. As for the pace of development I would say that this is a cost of mainstream providers taking on this role as opposed to specialist providers. Apple recieves no extra money and therefore have limits on the manpower they have to extend into accessibility improvements which form only a very small part of their total priority list. Not only this but it more or less kills any kind of third party market that may be able to drive the pace forward sufficiently for the market of those users who depend on those accessibility improvements, particularly as they relate to the desktop operating system such as Mac OS. The development of accessibility on Mac OS can be described as steady but slow and there are still things missing from it that Windows users take for granted with their favourite accessibility product. It will take me a little while to absorb the news that has emerged and still later before I could try anything out and I think that is where the real knowledge will come from rather than the blurb that is currently provided. Regards. Tristram Llewellyn Sight and Sound Technology Technical Support www.sightandsound.co.uk Mail: Tristram: tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Technical: Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx General - info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Phone: Support line: 0845 634 7979 Sight and Sound Technology Limited is a company registered in England and Wales, with company number 1408275. Sight and Sound Technology Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton NN3 6WD VAT Number - GB 860 2121 66. ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq Glasgow - Proud Host City of the 2014 Commonwealth Games ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Disclaimer: This message is intended only for use of the addressee. If this message was sent to you in error, please notify the sender and delete this message. Glasgow City Council cannot accept responsibility for viruses, so please scan attachments. Views expressed in this message do not necessarily reflect those of the Council who will not necessarily be bound by its contents. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq