Thanks . Perhaps I will wait a week or two and go back and get Driver Support again about the middle of March when my subscription would have run out anyway. A few weeks without a driver scanner won't do all that much harm anyway. Tony From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shaun O'Connor Sent: 09 February 2015 13:23 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Driver updaters and scanners if you know the manufacturer of the driver you are after, that's where you should go. There a many rogue"driver updates" making their rounds, this is a problem that is likely to increase. However it would be inappropriate to go into the reasons for this in this current thread/group for a number of reasons over and above accessibility( although these issues could and most likely will impact on user accessibility). On 09/02/2015 11:29, TONY CRETNEY wrote: One day last week I had a rather strange Windows update which didn't close windows down in the normal way but it hung on for something like One and a half hours after which I had to close the system manually by holding the power button in for a short time. Since this my 'Driver Support' programme refused to open up and I have uninstalled it from my computer. I have looked on Google and Yahoo for a free, or reasonably priced replacement, but whenever I find one and go to download it I seem to be running into trouble, as MacAfee is always telling me that the download is dangerous. I tend to accept this as last night before going off the computer I cleaned nearly one GB of rubbish from the hard drive. Can anyone recommend a good driver updater and suggest a website where I might get it? Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Tony -- PRIVACY IS A BASIC RIGHT - NOT A CONCESSION https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/11/when-time-comes-we-need-be-ready-fight -tpps-secret-anti-user-agenda