[access-uk] Re: Charity for blind hits out at Bromley council (From News Shopper)
- From: "Barry Toner" <barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:25:11 -0000
Dave,
Drugs?
C'mon stop the silly posts or I'll stick you on moderated emails.
The thread is being allowed to run until tomorrow, as there's been some
productive debates. After midnight on Friday I'm politely asking that this
thread close as it's moving more and more into political discussions rather
than I T specifics.
Cheers,
Barry
List Admin.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Ankers, Dave (UK)
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 9:51 AM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Charity for blind hits out at Bromley council
> (From News Shopper)
>
> This is true, as I said in an earlier message, senior citizens should
> receive free recreational drugs .
>
> That will take care of their health and entertainment in one dose.
>
> I can just imagine loads of stoned pensioners at the seaside.
>
> If only we could use it too, might take up gardening.
>
> Since society and employers want us out of it, might as well be out of
> it!
>
> Sound pessimistic, sorry had too much experience and realistic.
>
> Are you struggling to make ends meet? can't get a job, cast out of
> society because you have special needs and therefore expensive, to look
> after.
>
> If you get court with drugs, they will lock you up and put a roof over
> your head, give you three meals a day, free access to learning
> materials and internet access, lots of company and free health care.
> You can learn another language and in the past go on a free safari
> holiday.
>
> Oh and free drugs!
>
> I do not and never have taken drugs,and do not recommend anyone do, but
> I can see why some do.
>
> Cheers
>
> Dave
>
> C'mon dave, not everyone gets the DLA they're entitled to. And you
> don't get DLA if you're over 65.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Ankers, Dave (UK)
> Sent: 12 January 2011 09:11
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Charity for blind hits out at Bromley council
> (From News Shopper)
>
> Lets not forget , we get D L A to help with the extra costs we
> encounter due to our disability.
>
> Cheers
>
> Dave
>
> "access these services is often posted in libraries and town halls"
> Of course we all live within spitting distance of our local libraries
> and town halls where details of services are readily available in an
> accessible format.
>
> "For heaven sake, wake up everyone, smell the roses and start putting
> your hand in your pocket and paying for things you want or that you
> feel you need"
> So, Ibrahim, I take it that you have never accepted a penny of
> government grant for specialist gear and instead have paid for
> everything out of your own hard-earned cash. *smile*
>
> All the best
> John
>
> At 07:56 12/01/2011, you wrote:
>
>
> Hi.
>
> I totally agree here. I cant see what all the fuss is about.
> Never at any time in my life as far as I can remember have I ever had
> talking books paid for by my local council or charity, be it public or
> private. Talking books as supplied by the RNIB is only £69 per year, a
> significant subsidy when you consider they loan you a player and
> potentially dozens of books per year. If you want to read, you should
> be prepared to pay for it as reading is not a human right and even if
> it were, the council in most boroughs provide their own library
> services with books on cd, cassette and even playaway as is the case in
> Peterborough where I live. The fact that some blind people are either
> too lazy or just plane ignorant of these services is no excuse not to
> ask them, for all they have to do is get off their asses or pick up the
> phone and ask. In an age where most young blind people and even a
> large majority of the middle aged and elderly have access to technology
> of some sort or oth
> er or know people who have access to said technology, the
> information about service provision in your local borough is readily
> available online and details of how to access these services is often
> posted in libraries and town halls. For heaven sake, wake up everyone,
> smell the roses and start putting your hand in your pocket and paying
> for things you want or that you feel you need. Joe public doesn't get
> free books, so why the heck should we.
>
> All the best, Ibrahim.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: David <mailto:n.weston42@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 7:36 AM
>
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Charity for blind hits out at
> Bromley council (From News Shopper)
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I would like to say that for that the last forty years or
> more I have had to pay for my equipment and also for my talking books.
> So far as I can see their is no change for me, or is Hertfordshire
> unique?
>
>
>
> David Weston.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] On Behalf Of Gordon
> Keen
>
> Sent: 11 January 2011 09:38
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> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Subject: [access-uk] Charity for blind hits out at Bromley
> council (From News Shopper)
>
>
>
>
> Here we go then, the big society - my arse!
>
>
>
>
>
> Charity for blind hits out at Bromley council
>
>
>
> 1:18pm Monday 10th January 2011
>
>
> By David Mills
>
>
> A CHARITY which represents the blind and visually impaired
> has hit out at Bromley Council
> <http://www.bromley.gov.uk/Default.bromley> for temporarily suspending
> equipment provision.
>
>
> Services which include the talking books, as well as
> equipment such as walking canes and liquid level indicators, are all
> under review by the council.
>
>
> Kent Association for the Blind (KAB), which has a sight
> centre in Blyth Road, Bromley, will be pressuring the council to
> continue providing funding.
>
>
> Dick Groves, aged 65, of South View, Bromley, said: "Visual
> impairment is the most feared of all sensory impairments. Provision in
> Bromley is extremely patchy."
>
>
> Mr Groves, who is blind, said: "This is a classic example
> of the way in which action has been taken without consultation and
> without information being given to one of the weakest sections of
> society and least able to respond."
>
>
> A KAB spokesman said: "We are currently in contact with our
> service users to explain the service has been temporarily suspended by
> the London borough of Bromley.
>
>
> "We are sharing other providers of these services such as
> the Calibre audio library, a completely free service, to ensure users
> are not going to go without talking books.
>
>
> "We at KAB are going to be making representations to the
> council to press the case that it would be more cost effective to
> continue to fund provision because we believe withdrawing that service
> represents a real risk to people's safety and their ability to get out
> and about.
>
>
> "The costs that could be generated by injury would far
> outweigh the cost to the council of providing equipment."
>
>
> A council spokesman said: "We have a strong commitment to
> providing talking books in our libraries with no plans to cut the
> service and we will continue to make special concessions to waive
> charges to people with a registered visual impairment.
>
>
> "We have however moved from cassettes to CDs and
> downloadable material over the years but we still keep a large
> collection of older cassettes in our Home Library Service, which
> supports customers who are physically unable to get into a branch.
>
>
> "There are also free national talking book service and as
> well as our library service we will be assisting people to access the
> talking books from the national Calibre service together with the
> equipment provided by the British Wireless for the Blind Fund.
>
>
> "To make sure we make the best use of our resource we
> wanted to avoid duplication and whilst we no longer fund the KAB
> talking books service, KAB is pointing people to our library and to
> these free services.
>
>
> "In terms of equipment supplied by the KAB on our behalf
> such as portable lamps, talking clocks and mobility aids, again we want
> to make sure we use resources as efficiently as possible and have
> suspended this KAB while we carry out a review.
>
>
> "However we do continue to fund KAB to provide assessment
> and rehabilitation services for people with visual impairments."
>
>
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