[access-uk] Re: Book Courier v Milestone

  • From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 05:12:31 +0100

Hi Barry,

No, unfortunately, there is not.

All the best
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Barry G
Sent: 24 April 2006 21:51
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier v Milestone

Hi Steve and James, you were both spot on!  Very impressive!  Just one more
question, is there any way of speeding up playback - standard speed does my
head in as it is so painfully slo...

Again, many thanks to you both,
Barry G

----- Original Message -----
From: "James O'Dell" <jamesodell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 7:55 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier v Milestone


> Hi Barry
>
> You need to insert your Daisy CD and then press the "Daisy" button in the 
> transfer Tool Main Window, or the "View Local Library" option from the 
> Daisy menu.  This will cause a list of titles found on the disk (usually 
> the one book that is on there) to appear in the list view in the main 
> window, then you just press "Transfer".  If you get an error when you 
> choose "View Local Library", select "Specify Library Location" from the 
> Daisy menu and make sure that the path indicated there is pointing to your

> CDRom drive.
>
> Hope it works for you, you won't be disappointed.
>
> James
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Barry G" <lister@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 5:35 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier v Milestone
>
>
>>I see that the BC is supposed to cope with DAISY files and have, before 
>>today, never tried to use this feature.  Out of interest, I tried to 
>>transfer an RNIB talking book CD to my BC but it only seemed to want to 
>>take the files as MP3.  I see the filter seems to want DAISY2, does anyone

>>know if Talking Books are using DAISY1 or DAISY2?  Maybe that's my 
>>problem, Are any other UK BC users using it for RNIB talking books?
>>
>> Barry G
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Philip Martin" <p.martin13@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 5:14 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier v Milestone
>>
>>
>>> HI James,
>>> Most interesting,  I am attracted to this unit as I won't need to take 
>>> my Victor Reader with me when I am away from home.  Do you know typical 
>>> battery life for the BC.  Also can it be used to record a committee 
>>> meeting where everyone is within about 6 feet of unit, no high quality 
>>> required just intelligible.  I know it does not have a separate mike 
>>> input.
>>>
>>> Hope you can help.
>>> Regards
>>> Philip
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "James O'Dell" <jamesodell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 4:21 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Book Courier v Milestone
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Roger
>>>>
>>>> I'm a Book Courier user and have no practical experience of the 
>>>> Milestone. I'm sure Steve or Ian will pick me up on anything I've 
>>>> missed, but here are some
>>>> ideas.
>>>>
>>>> Advantages of Book Courier:
>>>>
>>>> 1.  The prices of the book Courier and the Milestone are quite close 
>>>> (£180
>>>> for a Milestone, £225 for a book Courier or £200 if you have a 
>>>> registered
>>>> copy of Kurzweil 1000 version 7 or higher and order from techno-vision 
>>>> or
>>>> Computer Room Services).  I think TNAUK also have a deal with 
>>>> techno-vision
>>>> where you can get a BC for £200 if you currently have a subscription to
>>>> their digital service, since there is a special filter which allows you

>>>> to transfer TNAUK digital files onto the Book Courier.
>>>>
>>>> 2.  Book Courier already supports the Daisy format for audio, and does 
>>>> it
>>>> very well too, giving you access to all of the book's navigation 
>>>> features
>>>> easily and quickly, without having to wait for a CD to spin up, as you 
>>>> would
>>>> in a CD-based player.  Some of the portable players really seem to 
>>>> struggle
>>>> with complex Daisy titles, and some producers are having to issue 
>>>> warnings
>>>> to the effect that their material cannot be successfully played on such
>>>> players.  meanwhile, the Milestone is promising Daisy support, but 
>>>> obviously
>>>> there is a degree of risk involved in buying a milestone before this 
>>>> support actually
>>>> arrives, as you don't really know what you're buying :) and whether 
>>>> they will keep the development up when they have implemented it.
>>>>
>>>> 3.  Book Courier supports files from audible (.com and .co.uk), which 
>>>> is the
>>>> world's biggest and best provider of downloadable audio books, and 
>>>> which can
>>>> save you a fair bit of cash.
>>>>
>>>> 4.  Book Courier comes with twice the storage capacity of the milestone
>>>> (256mb compact flash card), and I think compact flash might be cheaper 
>>>> than
>>>> SD in general.
>>>>
>>>> 5.  The Big one: Book Courier includes its own built-in text-to-speech
>>>> synthesiser (Doubletalk), which can read text documents you transfer 
>>>> onto
>>>> the unit and also speaks all prompts and system information.  This 
>>>> means you
>>>> don't have to listen to such information at the speed of the 
>>>> pre-recorded
>>>> prompts on the milestone.  I also believe that filters for file formats

>>>> such
>>>> as word documents and html files are on the way at some point in the 
>>>> future.
>>>>
>>>> As you can tell, I like my book courier, but there are a few 
>>>> disadvantages
>>>> compared to the milestone:
>>>>
>>>> 1.  The milestone is smaller.
>>>>
>>>> 2.  Book courier is not directly rechargeable.  You can use 
>>>> rechargeable
>>>> batteries in the BC, but you would have to purchase a separate charger 
>>>> and
>>>> charge your batteries outside of the unit.  Springer Design, who make 
>>>> the BC, say you will get better results with non-rechargeables, but I 
>>>> have just started using rechargeables and have had no problems so far.
>>>>
>>>> 3.  If you want to do serious voice-recording, the Milestone might be a

>>>> better option, since I think it saves its voice recordings in mp3, 
>>>> rather than wave.  Book Courier does have a built-in microphone, but 
>>>> creates wave files, which will take up more room on the card.
>>>>
>>>> 4.  There is an issue with listening to music on the BC, in that a 
>>>> mistake was made in the development phase meaning that the stereo 
>>>> channels are reversed (you hear the left channel in the right ear and 
>>>> the right channel in the left ear).
>>>>
>>>> 5.  Generally, you are expected to use the Book Courier transfer 
>>>> software to transfer material to Book Courier, whereas the Milestone 
>>>> doesn't require this as far as I know.  you can transfer mp3 files to 
>>>> BC using Windows explorer, but not audible, text, TNAUK or daisy files.

>>>> This would be a disadvantage if you were planning to use a computer on 
>>>> which you are unable to install the software to transfer files.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps
>>>>
>>>> James
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "roger.south" <roger.south@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 9:43 AM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Book Courier v Milestone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On another list I'm on several people have shown great interest in the
>>>>> Milestone. I posted saying that the feeling on this list is the BC is 
>>>>> the
>>>>> better buy and has more features. I'm now being asked if someone on 
>>>>> this
>>>>> list would put a few points together to give reasons as to why that 
>>>>> belief
>>>>> is held.
>>>>>
>>>>> Roger
>>>>>
>>>>> Man is the only animal that blushes, or needs to.
>>>>> Mark Twain
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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