[access-uk] Re: Access to DAB info

  • From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 11:43:09 -0000

Hi Darran

At the time, I sent Pure some feedback, and tried to encourage them to fit the Ivox speech into some of their other products that were more menu driven. They were initially enthusiastic, saying they would consider putting speech into products with bigger memory capacity. But it never materialised.

It is still available at John Lewis and I think Simply Radios, but most of the specialist market has gobbled it up. I never knew QVC did it, and that kind of made me laugh because I could have imagined their sales pitch.

Jackie


----- Original Message ----- From: "Darran Ross" <darran.ross@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:27 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Access to DAB info


I was pleased to see that the Sonus was being sold on QVC. I had hoped that
this kind of exposure to the mainstream would have led to improved sales and more development of the product, and others like it. Alas, I was being more
than a little optimistic.

The Sonus was my first experience with a DAV radio and apart from anything
else, I find the quality of the sound to be extremely good! I know, this has
nothing to do with anything, but I would have liked the option to buy
further products that sound as good, with the help that the added speech
offers us.

Darran
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:17 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Access to DAB info


| Chris, she's a Mrs.  Definitely.  (smile).
|
| Jackie
| ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:10 AM
| Subject: [access-uk] Re: Access to DAB info
|
|
| > Hi, I have the Sonus myself, hence the tip about reading the text
display.
| > The voice I use, however, is Mrs or Miss Sonus, not sure <smiles>.
| > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx>
| > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 9:16 AM
| > Subject: [access-uk] Access to DAB info
| >
| >
| >> Hi Ray
| >>
| >> I've adjusted the subject line to suit this topic more aptly as you
| >> hinted (smile).
| >>
| >> I think it's a great pity that Pure, and anyone studying what they did
| >> with the Sonus, didn't take it further.  The voices are very good, my
| >> preference being Mr Sonus, and I think they could have done a lot more
| >> with their more integrated hi-fi systems where menu access is crucial
and
| >> only got at by cycling through various modes. While I'm not a lover of | >> their products, apart from the little Move radio which I think is ace,
I
| >> thought they had tapped into a market that I would have expected to be
| >> warmly received.
| >>
| >> It's not as if the Sonus was particularly over-priced anyway compared
to
| >> say the Dualit, which is expensive but oh so superior anyway.
| >>
| >> Having used radio all my life, it's not that I want it to tell me every
| >> move I make.  I just feel that there is a lot of info on the display
that
| >> I'd like to tap into, like song names and artists, and some of the menu
| >> functions.
| >>
| >> Oh well, a golden opportunity missed perhaps?
| >>
| >> Jackie
| >> ----- Original Message ----- | >> From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 10:40 PM
| >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset.
| >>
| >>
| >>> Jackie, I'm sure I've heard that, indeed, Pure aren't going to update
| >>> the Sonus.  Not only that, but they were disappointed at the low
| >>> take-up of the Sonus.  The same happened I believe with the Netgem
| >>> Box.
| >>>
| >>> I think It isn't just the limitations of the audio tagging idea in
| >>> these products; it's as much to do with few of us wanting to pay any | >>> sort of premium for an accessible product even though that premium is
| >>> nothing like the stratospheric realms of the Portset.  The idea that
| >>> RNIB and others had of a market willing and ready to buy just didn't
| >>> hold water.
| >>>
| >>> Not that things couldn't have been done differently, and an overlap
| >>> with the in-car market for this sort of talking DAB product does look
| >>> like a missed opportunity .
| >>>
| >>> What chance of the parallel idea of an interface to take, say, an SD
| >>> card add-on?  Yes, I know these card formats like so many things
| >>> change, but then so do the product lines of Pure and their likes.  I
| >>> do think this idea should be a goer, but where's the impetus for
| >>> funding development of some sort of standard?
| >>>
| >>> Oh, and what's so wrong with changing the subject lines of threads
| >>> like this?  As so often, we've drifted considerably.
| >>>
| >>> Cheers,
| >>>
| >>> From Ray
| >>> I can be contacted off-list at:
| >>> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> -----Original Message-----
| >>> Jackie Cairns
| >>>
| >>> Chris, yes I know it does. But that drives me up the wall because by
| >>> the
| >>> time you've got it to spell a line of text, the display has changed.
| >>> I
| >>> don't think Pure are going to do anything else to that radio, which is
| >>> a
| >>> pity.  Like all things that use a tagging system, they outdate very
| >>> quickly.
| >>>
| >>> Jackie
| >>> ----- Original Message -----
| >>> From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 8:50 AM
| >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset.
| >>>
| >>>
| >>>> Hi, the Pure Sonus 1 XT does, but only by pressing and holding the
| >>> info
| >>>> button, and only then the recorded voice will spell out the text
| >>> rather
| >>>> than read it word by word. Wish they'd improve on that, but there
| >>> you go.
| >>>> ----- Original Message -----
| >>>> From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx>
| >>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 1:20 PM
| >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset.
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>> Hi Wendy
| >>>>>
| >>>>> The Netgem box no longer provides accurate channel names of some
| >>>>> stations. This is because it was originally tagged to speak certain
| >>>>> channel names, and updates have caused its tagging system to go
| >>>>> out-of-date.  But since I don't watch much TV other than news and
| >>> sport,
| >>>>> it doesn't affect me.
| >>>>>
| >>>>> I am curious to know, however, whether the Media Centre from
| >>> Portset you
| >>>>> mention you have lets you find out the name of a song on a DAB
| >>> station
| >>>>> using the text system.  Lots of stations now show the names of the
| >>> track
| >>>>> they are playing, and I wonder if you can find out that info on the
| >>>>> Centre?
| >>>>>
| >>>>> Jackie
| >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
| >>>>> From: "Wendy Sharpe" <w.sharpe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 12:53 PM
| >>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset.
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>>>I think there were some dots in the URL which should be slashes.
| >>> Try:
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> http://www.tvhelp.org.uk/audes/equipment/index.html
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> This gives details of TV's with audio description and the Logic
| >>> and
| >>>>>> Portset
| >>>>>> equipment.  The Logic is very cheap from Curries, but it doesn't
| >>> talk,
| >>>>>> so
| >>>>>> not much use to anyone who can't see the screen.  A pity Netgem
| >>> have
| >>>>>> stopped
| >>>>>> making their set top box.
| >>>>>> Wendy
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
| >>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
| >>> Behalf
| >>>>>> Of
| >>>>>> David W Wood
| >>>>>> Sent: 02 December 2007 12:46
| >>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> Hi Gordon:
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> The full URL  doesn't work, with an audio error message from the
| >>> page.
| >>>>>> Also saying something about one colour to go back, and another
| >>> continue.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> www.tvhelp.org.uk/audes does work however.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> David
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
| >>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
| >>> Behalf
| >>>>>> Of
| >>>>>> Gordon Keen
| >>>>>> Sent: 02 December 2007 12:38
| >>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>>>>> Cc: Gordon Keen
| >>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> Strange, safari went straight to it and I've just browsed through
| >>> the
| >>>>>> models available.
| >>>>>> World wide weirdness!
| >>>>>> Cheers
| >>>>>> G
| >>>>>> From glorious Devon, England.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> On 2 Dec 2007, at 12:26, David W Wood wrote:
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>>> Hi Gordon - this link gives:
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> This page is not available
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> David
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
| >>>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
| >>>>>>> Behalf Of
| >>>>>>> Gordon Keen
| >>>>>>> Sent: 02 December 2007 12:16
| >>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>>>>>> Cc: Gordon Keen
| >>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset.
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> Hi
| >>>>>>> For alternatives check out:
| >>>>>>> http://www.tvhelp.org.uk/audes/equipment.index.html
| >>>>>>> Hopefully competition will force down prices in the not too
| >>> distant
| >>>>>>> future.
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> Cheers
| >>>>>>> G
| >>>>>>> From glorious Devon, England.
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> On 2 Dec 2007, at 11:03, Jackie Cairns wrote:
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> My only comment, and please feel free to jump on me if you want
| >>>>>>> folks (though not literally) (smile), is that it's a rip-off for
| >>>>>>> £620 or
| >>>>>>> whatever it costs.  I know it speaks, but £620 for that?  Phew!
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> I loved their Talking Teletext unit when I had mine, but that was
| >>>>>>> when there wasn't so much information available elsewhere.
| >>> Certain
| >>>>>>> Freeview
| >>>>>>> boxes, while they don't provide speech navigation, do offer Audio
| >>>>>>> Description, and there are also lots of DAISY players on the
| >>> market
| >>>>>>> to tap
| >>>>>>> into.  I just think it's well OTT.
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> Jackie
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
| >>>>>>> From: sue morgan <mailto:sue@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 12:35 AM
| >>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Portset.
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> Hi list.
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> I've been reading about the Portset Accessible Freeview
| >>>>>>> Receiver and I'm quite interested in it. I'm wondering if anyone
| >>> on
| >>>>>>> this
| >>>>>>> list has one, or knows anything about them. I've listened to the
| >>>>>>> audio demo
| >>>>>>> on the Portset website and it seems very accessible.
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> Any feedback would be grate as I'd love to have an
| >>>>>>> accessible freeview receiver.
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> Sue.
| >>>>>>> e-mail sue@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>>>>>> mobile 07968825286
| >>>>>>> msn sue@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>>>>>> skype suemorgan1006
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> Gordon Keen
| >>>>>>> gordonkeen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>
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