HI, Mike. This is one for either election lawyers, or the Board of Elections, or = its commissioner to respond to... and is a question that must be = answered. I have a related concern that, rather than replacing all voting machines = with accessible ones, that there will be placed "special" accessible = machines for voters who for some reason cannot use the "normal" = (present) voting machines. given the staff I have met at elections over = the years, I would expect numerous problems from the elections staff = about using the accessible machine, starting with "how does this work" = continuing through "who is allowed/required" to use these", and "you = can't use that machine; you have to use the one at our table", and going = all the way through "do we have to count these?" and How do we count = these?". If there is only one accessible voting machine per polling place, which = is what I expect given what I know at this moment, then it will be = necessary to tell the machine which ED/AD you are voting from and to = pass those ballots back to the appropriate ED/AD vote tally people. If the level of training for staff with whatever new machine is chosen = and whatever procedures are put in place is as thorough and = comprehensive as the election staff I have often encountered obviously = received, then there are numerous opportunities for misconception, = error, confusion and intentional or unintentional exclusion of votes = cast on accessible machines from the counting of votes in their = respective districts. Maybe its time to humbly secure the professional opinion of an election = lawyer? John Jeavons -----Original Message----- From: acbny-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:acbny-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mike Godino Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 6:05 PM To: ACBNY Subject: [acbny-l] the voting machine question Hi Sherry and others, It's always nice to work with others when it comes to access, however, I = asked several question in my last message that still have not been = answered. If the ILs in Westchester work with the legislators and = convince the county to buy an accessible voting plan for the whole = county, how can you be sure that your vote will count on the state = level? If the voting machine purchased by the county is not certified = by the state or is not a full-face ballot machine, the votes made on the = machine are and or will not be valid in a state election, and therefore, = the votes will not be passed on to the national election. =20 So now, I ask my question again, on a full-face ballot machine, using a = scrolling menu to read the ballot, do to the inaccessibility of the = full-face ballot, will my vote count? How can we as blind and VI people = know what to advocate for if this question can not be answered? politely seeking knowledge, Mike Godino =20