Mike: I don't think merely moving CBVH to VESID is a bad thing, provided CBVH, and, for that matter, the other major disability groups, have there own semi-independent delivery systems, including budgets and accountability structure within the agency, just as NLS does, as part of the Library of Congress. Moving the agency probably won't save money. The best reason to move it, provided the above conditions are met, is, in my opinion, to provide a centralized single place where anyone with a disability. And those effected by it, such as employers and family menbers, can easily get the answers and referrals to services they need in one place, particularly since increasing numbers of blind people have major disabilities, other than blindness, which should be addressed in a coordinated way. There is also a side benefit of enhancing political clout with other disability groups, when desirable. Many people confuse location of services in a single agency, with the model where the direct delivery of services tries to be all things to all disabilities, with such functions as accountability, budgeting, and counseling organized to lump all disabilities together for these purposes.. This would indeed be a disaster, and should not be supported. If you think about it, CBVH has to be some where. Should it be under the governor's office, where it competes with the attension of transportation, police, and other unrelated concerns, or in an agency, where it's programs may, at times, compete with the interests of other disability groups, but mostly are complimentary to them? No matter where we are located, the possibility always exists that the needs of blind people will be overlooked, which is why we need strong political organizations to protect our unique services. . I can remember when NLS-related services were extended to cover other segments of the print-disabled population. You should have heard the furor among some in the blind community! These folks felt resources would be stretched to the point where blind people would be short-changed. They didn't realize that a larger eligibility base is more likely to result in a more diverse selection of books and publications offered through the program, do to increased political clout, and diversity of interests, which is in fact what happened. We see similar sentiments by people who somehow think the visually impaired should remain with the general VESID population, and not be included under CBVH. Sure they would be easier to provide services for, but then so would blind people without other disabilities, as opposed to blind people with serious cognative issues. All these differences could be addressed with points systems, providing credit to counselors working with people harder to provide services to because of there unique needs, in place of determining effectiveness only by the grose number of persons served. Besides, the larger number of persons with vision impairments served would provide CBVH programs increased political clout. Mike