For NVDA enthusiasts, NVDA got a change recently that has it no longer showing it's interface. When you launch NVDA now, which takes a bit less time than it used to because of this change, NVDA puts it's interface in the system tray and the menu items can be accessed from there with insert+n. The change is slick and efficient in my opinion. On top of all that, ESpeak got some updates, and it sounds a little different now. I'm still making up my mind whether I like it better or not. Aaron T. Spears (valiant) EMail: valiant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and others MSNMessenger: a1t2s3_89@xxxxxxxxxxx AIM: computeruser89 and skype: aarontech.valiant Beta Testing System Information: soney Vaio VGN250n . Intel core 2 duo 1.66ghz . 2,048 mb ddr2 SDRAM (667 mhz) . Intel graphics . Realtech audio Toshiba 160gb 5,400 rpm hdd (Microsoft Windows Vista business)