[a2t] Re: Meeting at Sight Village 2008 & group future

  • From: "Steve Dryden" <csdryden@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <a2t@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:52:37 +0100

MessageHello Patrick,

Thanks for your report on the outcome of the recent meeting at SV.  The first 
thing I'd like to point out is that I didn't see my name in the apologies and I 
did pass on that I would not be able to attend.  No matter though.

For my part, I'm glad the group is going to continue.  I have unfortunately 
been very busy with a project in Carlisle so time has been a little scarce.

The skills set is a good idea so I'll be the first then to put forward my areas 
of expertise.

1  BTCS Accreditation in Jaws
2  Trainer of Jaws, Supernova, Kurzweil K1000, Zoomtext and Talks.
3  Experience of delivery to groups.
4  Comprehensive rehabilitation and visual awareness training.

Please note, ATS does not supply any software or hardware at present.

Hope that now starts the ball rolling Patrick.  Let me know if you need any 
further details.

Steve

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Patrick Adams 
  To: 'A2T List' 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:48 PM
  Subject: [a2t] Meeting at Sight Village 2008 & group future


  As promised my notes on the meeting.  If there is anything you think I 
missed, just post to the list.
  Present at the meeting were:
  Peter Bosher, Soundlinks Ltd; Enitan T Ajayi  CCPH; Tim Burgess, Raised Bar 
Ltd; Graham Longley, Aspire Consultancy; Patrick Adams, Riverside Training 
Partnership (in the chair); John Ramm, Rammland Ltd; Stephanie Sargeant 
  Apologies: Brian Cairnie, Cragside Accessibility Ltd; Ashif Sindhi, Sindhi 
Systems Ltd (who was nearly there but misunderstood the time of the meeting!)

  1. The meeting agreed that the only e-mail route for the group would be via 
the FreeList.org facility already set up by Pete Bosher.
  2. The group might meet more often but it should meet at least twice a year, 
once at Sight Village and the other to be decided by group members in agreement 
with each other.
  3. There may be tele conferences using Skype but these will not be held 
regularly as happened in the months up to February 2008.  Any group member, 
posting to freelist can request a tele conference meeting to raise any issue 
whenever they wish.
  4. Group members are strongly encouraged to post regularly to freelist, 
putting up ideas, asking other group members for advice, passing on work they 
cannot do etc.  The lifeblood of the group is through communication.

  During the meeting these ideas were discussed:
  1. Remote training: there is a huge potential market for VI people who are 
not employed to learn how to use their PC based systems with Access Technology. 
 Carrying out the IT4All training days for BCAB all the trainers in the A2T 
group agreed this was a vast untapped market.  Just how to tap this market is a 
very interesting proposition that the meeting felt should be tackled.

  Telephone Training: BCAB already does do this to a limited extent.  A2T Group 
members can identify potential markets via the local Associations for the Blind 
and other local groups and feed this back to other group members in terms of:
  how many possible customers would there be in this area overall; what systems 
are commonly requested but not fulfilled at present because of the cost of 
one-to -one training; what cost would be acceptable for an individual and what 
for a group; questions like this would be necessary to ask if a project like 
this could get off the ground.  Obviously each group member must ask themselves 
how much they would be willing to work for per hour, per week, per month or per 
year in terms of a marketing strategy.  Would members be willing to work at a 
lower than acceptable rate to establish themselves working in this area?  

  If marketing information became available to other group members then it 
might help the group as a whole to establish a network via the web site in 
different areas of the country 

  Group members could then decide whether this product was a goer for them.  
Then regional training services for live training and national remote training 
services could be posted on the web site to enhance the A2T group. Better hit 
rates on the site would improve the market profile of the group as a whole.

  Remote Training via the web: all the above applies if you use software that 
can take over a customer's PC and establish a training session for individual 
or group using this route.  This approach would incur up-front costs for those 
who wanted to join such a scheme.  The potential for this approach is that 
members could then sell hardware and software to potential trainees and support 
these via the web.

  Sight & Sound Technology

  I had a short discussion with Mervyn Robertson at Sight Village on the Sight 
& Sound stand.

  Mervyn was most strong on the existence of organisations that bought products 
from S & S and did not support those products but wanted their discount.  He 
said S & S were in the planning stages of setting up accreditation for their 
products for resellers, dealers and maybe assessors.  This accreditation would 
be chargeable but he thought that for organisations and individuals belonging 
to our group should not incur the same charges as a large private or government 
organisation.  He also said it might be possible to come to some arrangement 
with those belonging to the BTCS Accreditation scheme.  Two things come out of 
our discussion:
  1. those who have lost their reseller status selling S & S products might 
regain this via an accreditation scheme 
  2. The A2T group should visit S & S in Northampton when this accreditation 
scheme is further advanced in the planning stage, say in the Autumn/Winter this 
year.

  I will keep a watching brief on this possible scheme and report back to group 
members.

  Lastly, arising out of the meeting at Sight Village and following more 
reflections I would like to ask if all members could post to the rest their 
individual skills in Access Technology plus what they also do in the way of 
assessment or consultancy, plus what Access Technology products they retail.  
This information will then be posted to the web site with links to each 
person's own web site.  This is a very basic beginning to our network.  Once we 
start getting this detail then we will have to agree who will actually design 
the pages and how much this would be for each contributing group member.  
Remember you have to invest a little before you get anything out.

  That's all from me at present.

  Patrick Adams
  (who agreed to continue as Chairman until July 2009 when this will be 
reviewed by the group)


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