There is so much to this fight it would take ages to type out, but we have said
many times extend (in distance) the fight to drain enemies energy, what this
Spitfire pilot did should not be new. The 109 fell for it, then blew it, not
applying pressure at the right times did not help himself either as it gave the
Spitfire a chance to recover altitude and energy . You are right dogfighting
would not have saved you ;).
The Spitfire pilot made the engagement more difficult, but the 109 lost the
control of the fight through bad choices.
Colin
On 27 July 2018, at 05:03 pm, Rob <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I disagree. If I was in that Spit I would probably have been shot down :-) You
can say 'Yeah but you are shit at dogfighting" but there was stuff in the video
that would probably keep me alive longer .
There is not an instructional video or book in existence that someone could not
say 'Yes but if he had done X he would have won.' Everything in Shaws guide
to combat can be countered by someone who knows what he is doing yet people
still find it useful.
Rob
From: Lee Fisher <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: 56raf_firebirds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, 27 July 2018, 16:43
Subject: [56raf_firebirds] Re: [56raf_firebirds] Turning the tables when on
lower energy
Well, that was bollocks!
a useless 109 pilot making fatal errors from the start, if "you" find a 109
pilot this bad online, and you will, I would expect you to get the kill just as easily.
A lot of his "data" is wrong, Bart and I have tested the G-14 and Spit9, the
climb rates are virtually identical, he might as well have been fighting another spit9
for all the differences there are between planes, while I would prefer to fight this
match up in a Spit9, because of it's better manouverability, if I had to fly the 109 I
would have kept pressure on the Spit the whole time and used the Sun.
Descending pressure, climbing pressure, energy trap, LOL = "Bullshit baffles
brains"
Witch
On 27 Jul, 2018, at 02:57 PM, Rob <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Quite a nice video detailing one encounter with a Spit IX being attacked by a
higher BF-109G14. Yes the 109 has to make mistakes but let's be honest. Pilots
*do* make mistakes and can still win if you do not respond correctly.
Controlling the fight from a lower energy state - IL-2 Battle of Bodenplatte
Controlling the fight from a lower energy state - IL-2 Battle of Bodenplatte
Fighting user Marengo in his Bf109G-14. In this fight I am able to control the
entire engagement despite being i...
