oh come on. "dancing" with random girls can't be that scientific. no need= to=20 justify the randomness of the whole situation. Quoting Luka Mili=9Aa <lmil005@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > Random is a concept that can be understood at three different Habermasi= an /=20 > Churchmanian levels. Firstly, Thilak's opinion of randomness is wholly= based >=20 > on his own sincerity, in order to question his understanding one should= =20 > question his sincerity (which can be done, especially with his sarcasm). > On the social/organisational level we should consider the socially acce= pted=20 > norms of randomness, this is socially constructed, that is, a level abo= ve the >=20 > personal understanding, it is a shared understanding at the level of=20 > communities, in this case, the New Zealand society in a given demograph= ic. > The randomness is then that as experienced by the society. I think tha= t the >=20 > randomness in my case was definitely there, since the girl started danc= ing=20 > with me before she even talked to me or anything. Indeed, this was veri= fied > by=20 > the odd looks of the other people on the dancefloor.=20 > At the technical level, we should consider the definition of random, i.= e. > it's=20 > truthful meaning. Dictionary.com's answer is: > "Without a governing design, method, or purpose; unsystematically: chos= e a=20 > card at random from the deck." > While we could assume that there was a general "governing design" of pi= cking >=20 > up girls when one goes out clubbing, we could question the randomness. > As a summary, the Habermasian perspectives have shown Thilak's argument= to be >=20 > correct/incorrect depengin on the validty claims or guarantors one empl= oys.=20 >=20 > This is not uncommon and is to be expected in most problems occuring in= the=20 > social domain. The Habermasian analysis has proven helpful, but perhap= s, > more=20 > analysis should be employed at the Foucouldian analysis of Thilak's pos= t in=20 > the first place. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Quoting Thilak Nathen <thilak@xxxxxxxxxxxx>: >=20 > ~=3D~ Wuahahhahahaha....a random chick eh? Interesting....which club wu= z this > ~=3D~ again? Get into details man, we want details. > ~=3D~=20 > ~=3D~ Btw, there is no such thing as random. There's alwiz an algorithm= behind > ~=3D~ it. Hence, I conclude that a random chick is, in fact, not that r= andom > ~=3D~ at all...it's a product of a complex mathematical equation calcul= ated by > ~=3D~ nature...it's all meant to be man...it's all meant to be... > ~=3D~=20 > ~=3D~ Ask Chee if you don't believe me... :) <---- Note: The smile > ~=3D~=20 > ~=3D~ =3D20 > ~=3D~ -----Original Message----- > ~=3D~ From: 340-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:340-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] = On > ~=3D~ Behalf Of Luka Mili=3DB9a > ~=3D~ Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2004 10:38 p.m. > ~=3D~ To: 340@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ~=3D~ Subject: [340] Re: Some rather lovely thoughts > ~=3D~=20 > ~=3D~ oh come on man, leave it... > ~=3D~ im over random chicks... trying to be all mature here... > ~=3D~ anyway i dont think there even have been random chicks - more lik= e one > ~=3D~ and=3D20 > ~=3D~ thats it... > ~=3D~ BTW heard back from Unisys? > ~=3D~=20 > ~=3D~ Quoting Tony Yeung <Tony.Yeung@xxxxxxxxxxxx>: > ~=3D~=20 > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Very nice Luka.. now share with us your 'lovely thoughts'= about =3D > ~=3D~ your > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ random chicks @ clubs. > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20 > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ -----Original Message----- > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ From: Luka Milisa [mailto:lmil005@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2004 4:30 p.m. > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ To: 340 list > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Subject: [340] Some rather lovely thoughts > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20 > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20 > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Inspiring speech by the CEO of COCA COLA: > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20 > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ "Imagine Life as a game in which you are juggling some fi= ve balls > =3D > ~=3D~ in > ~=3D~ the > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ air". > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ You name them - work, family, health, friends and spirit = and =3D > ~=3D~ you're > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ keeping all > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ of these in the air. You will soon understand that work i= s a =3D > ~=3D~ rubber > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ ball. If > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ you drop it, it will bounce back. But the other four ball= s - =3D > ~=3D~ family, > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ health, > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ friends and spirit - are made of glass. If you drop one o= f these, > ~=3D~ they > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ will be > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ irrevocably scuffed, marked, nicked, damaged or even shat= tered. =3D > ~=3D~ They > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ will never > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ be the same. You must understand that and strive for bala= nce in =3D > ~=3D~ your > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ life. > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20 > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ How? > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20 > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Don't undermine your worth by comparing yourself with oth= ers. It =3D > ~=3D~ is > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ because we > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ are different that each of us is special. > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20 > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Don't set your goals by what other people deem important.= Only you > ~=3D~ know > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ what is > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ best for you. > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20 > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Don't take for granted the things closest to your heart. = Cling to > ~=3D~ them > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ as you > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ would your life, for without them, life is meaningless. > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20 > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Don't let your life slip through your fingers by living i= n the =3D > ~=3D~ past > ~=3D~ or > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ for the > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ future. By living your life one day at a time, you live a= ll the =3D > ~=3D~ days > ~=3D~ of > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ your > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ life. > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20 > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Don't give up when you still have something to give. Noth= ing is > ~=3D~ really > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ over > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ until the moment you stop trying. > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20 > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Don't be afraid to admit that you are less than perfect. = It is =3D > ~=3D~ this > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ fragile > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ thread that binds us together. > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20 > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Don't be afraid to encounter risks. It is by taking chanc= es that =3D > ~=3D~ we > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ learn how to > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ be brave. > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20 > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Don't shut love out of your life by saying it's impossibl= e to find > ~=3D~ time. > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ The > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ quickest way to receive love is to give; the fastest way = to lose > ~=3D~ love is > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ to > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ hold it too tightly; and the best way to keep love is to = give it > ~=3D~ wings. > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20 > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Don't run through life so fast that you forget not only w= here =3D > ~=3D~ you've > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ been, but > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ also where you are going. Don't forget, a person's greate= st > ~=3D~ emotional > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ need is > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ to feel appreciated. > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20 > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Don't be afraid to learn. Knowledge is weightless, a trea= sure you > ~=3D~ can > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ always > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ carry easily. > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20 > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Don't use time or words carelessly. Neither can be retrie= ved. > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20 > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20 > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ Life is not a race, but a journey to be savoured each ste= p of the > ~=3D~ way. > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~ You only get one go at life, it is not a rehearsal. > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20 > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20 > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20 > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20 > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20 > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20 > ~=3D~ ~=3D3D~=3D20 > ~=3D~=20 > ~=3D~=20 > ~=3D~=20 > ~=3D~=20 > ~=3D~=20 > ~=3D~=20 > ~=3D~=20 > ~=3D~=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20