JRS, I'm not sure why my response didn't go through but I completely concur that the Vienna Circle and Carnap in America are the likely suspects. I also noted that I recall Rorty's reading of the situation here being biased toward a Quinean interpretation of things, such that the attack on the analytic-synthetic distinction justified the naturalistic turn. The view is very much predicated on a Carnapian view of Analytic Philosophy and ignores the fact that Wittgenstein and OLP didn't even accept the terms in which those issues were framed let alone the thesis itself. JPDeMouy ========================================= Need Something? Check here: http://ludwig.squarespace.com/wittrslinks/