We may have hashed this out sufficiently before, but I'll reply to a couple of bits here. "[L]aw is neither, and never has been, ... the vehicle of cultural stagnation." I'm not sure why not. If I'm right about what Article VI means, and you're right that my constitutional theory entails Amish-like cultural stagnation, then the Constitution is, sadly (or maybe happily), a vehicle of cultural stagnation. It certainly has conservative elements, for better or worse. "[T]he great majority of constitutional words are family resemblance ideas." That's never seemed super plausible to me. -----Original Message----- From: conlawprof-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:conlawprof-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sean Wilson Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:58 PM To: conlawprof@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; wittrsamr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: On Originalism & Language (Chris) ... the people who actually "bind" their progeny through time do so with cultural practices like the Amish. Religious practices also "bind," and usually do so through rituals of sacraments and so forth, not through language. Drama and theater are behaviors that allows us to re-live the psychology of other times. But law is neither, and never has been, theater, religion, sacrament or the vehicle of cultural stagnation. Rather, it has only ever been one thing: regulation through language. And if law is language, the question of whether the framers can bind us is false. The only question is in whether the language does. And because the great majority of constitutional words are family resemblance ideas, how one complies with them is only an EXAMPLE of compliance. Hence, subsequent generations can surely comply with the language by electing a different EXAMPLE. The rules for the language culture determine this, not the idolatry of the past. See: http://ssrn.com/abstract=1405451 Regards and thanks Dr. Sean Wilson, Esq. Assistant Professor Wright State University Personal Website: http://seanwilson.org SSRN papers: http://ssrn.com/author=596860 Discussion Group: http://seanwilson.org/wittgenstein.discussion.html ----- Original Message ---- From: Christopher Green <crgreen@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: conlawprof@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 11:46:45 AM Subject: RE: Originalism We've probably had this conversation before, but of course the Founders can bind us, if they can convince us to take an oath to be "bound" by "this Constitution," per Article VI. See http://ssrn.com/abstract=1227162. ; If my op-ed today were somehow able to command the oaths of the denizens of 2240, that'd do the trick, I think. _______________________________________________ To post, send message to Conlawprof@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/conlawprof Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others. ========================================= Need Something? Check here: http://ludwig.squarespace.com/wittrslinks/