Cayuse wrote: >BruceD wrote: >>Cayuse wrote: >>Bruce asked: What are some metaphysical claims? Cayuse gave some >>examples. >>>That there is a creator god. >>>That people have free will in a non-compatibilist sense. >>>That the "thing" is distinct from its qualities. >>>That time had a beginning. >>In what sense are these metaphysical >In the sense that they are imagined scenarios that admit of no >imaginable way of testing for their validity. physicists and mathematicians have taken over from philosophers the task of deciding whether there is a free will. google "conway kochen free will theorem" or start your search here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_will_theorem. Joe -- Nothing Unreal is Self-Aware @^@~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~@^@ http://what-am-i.net @^@~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~@^@ ========================================== Manage Your AMR subscription: //www.freelists.org/list/wittrsamr For all your Wittrs needs: http://ludwig.squarespace.com/wittrslinks/